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Unfortunately Humphrey Evans in 1901 is given as born in Glossop in c 1865 in the 1901 Census.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

The Llangynog Humphrey Evans year of birth is 1868 - I have the certificate

regards, David

I had a good look at this last night exploring every possible "normal" angle in the Census and BMD records.However there may be just one unexplored angle on this.I returned to the Robert Evans born in 1844 in Llangynog.The 1851 Census entry may throw up just a small further crumb.It shows Robert had a sister given as born in c 1850 an Elizabeth Jane Evans.Have you managed to find any later info for her?

Regards
William Russell Jones.

Thank you, William - I will look into that possible link. David

I would like to contact anyone with a knowledge of this EVANS family from LLANGYNOG, Montgomeryshire: ROBERT EVANS b.1844, (son of ROBERT EVANS b. DOLGELLY, Merionethshire 1844), and his wife JANE; their eldest son, ROBERT EVANS, b.1864, died in France, 1916, (married to HANNAH MARIA and living in MERTHYR TYDFIL at the time of his enlistment); other children, WILLIAM, DAVID, EVAN, JOHN, HUMPHREY, ELLINOR, OWEN, EDWARD.

My interest in this family is that I believe the ROBERT EVANS, who died in WW1, to be the brother of my grandfather ALFRED WILSON, (below) apparently born in LLANGYNOG c.1868. ALFRED WILSON gives his place of birth on his Army Medical Papers as LLANGYNOG and as LLANGYNOG on the 1911 census; so, even if he wasn't actually born there, he would seem to have a connection with that place. 

I have not been able to find ALFRED WILSON, who worked as a coal miner, on any census before 1901, which states he was born in NORTH WALES;  so he is "missing" on three censuses. In 1901 he is living in HOLLINWOOD, LANCASHIRE with his wife MARY ELLEN BROOKS, whom he married in 1896; the marriage certificate gives his father's name as ROBERT WILSON.

Apart from attending a funeral in Wales during WW1 and receiving a surprise visit from WILLIAM (or EVAN), he appears to have had no contact with his family; my mother sent a telegram to somewhere in WALES when he died in 1929.

Much of the information I have about him came from his daughter, my late mother. She told me that his father's name was ROBERT and that his mother's name was JANE EVANS. While he was away serving in the Royal Artillery, during WW1, she was going through his drawers, as you do, and found a piece of paper with a list of names on it; she remembered ROBERT, WILLIAM, EVAN, OWEN. These, she was told by my grandmother, were her father's brothers; some of them, my mother remembered, were called EVANS. His eldest brother, ROBERT, she was told, had been killed in action in WW1. The only ROBERT from Llangynog to be killed in WW1 is ROBERT EVANS of Tynewydd, Llangynog and he is commemorated in the Memorial Hall, Llangynog and also on the War Memorial in Merthyr Tydfil,

After the names on the list was written OSWESTRY (Llangynog was referred to as Llangynog, Oswestry) and my grandmother, I was told, thought he came from WREXHAM.

I started this research over twenty-five years ago and have explored several possibilities such as a re-marriage or a name change, to no avail. I am hoping someone with connections to this EVANS family can help me.

I hope this will answer your various questions:

ALFRED WILSON place of birth on his Army Medical Papers is given as Llangynog and it is Llangynog on the 1911 census; so, even if he wasn't born there, he would seem to have a connection with that place.

Much of the information I have about him came from his daughter, my late mother (his youngest daughter is still living in Oldham). She told me that his father's name was ROBERT and that his mother's name was JANE EVANS. While he was away serving in the Royal Artillery, she was going through his drawers, as you do, and found a piece of paper with a list of names on it; she remembered ROBERT, WILLIAM, EVAN, OWEN. These, she was told by my grandmother, were her father's brothers; some of them, she thought, were called EVANS. ROBERT, she was told, had been killed in action in WW1.

The only ROBERT from Llangynog to be killed in WW1 is ROBERT EVANS of Tynewydd, Llangynog and he is commemorated in the Memorial Hall, Llangynog and also on the War Memorial in Merthyr Tydfil, (so the 1891 and 1901 census extracts you quoted are the right family).

On his wedding certificate (registry office) the name of his father is given as ROBERT WILSON, a miner. ALFRED WILSON called his eldest son ROBERT, although, perhaps rather unexpectedly, his first daughter was called ALICE; the next daughter was JANE.

Thank you for your interest in this Post. 

 

Thanks, yes, that's him. It's finding him on the 1871, 1881 and 1891 that's more of a problem.