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Europe / Re: Any bdm sites for Suda (Souda), Crete, Greece?
« on: Sunday 21 October 18 21:19 BST (UK)  »
The wife (who was Scottish) - Jessie Elder Lindsay b 1856 - married George John Couryer (or Kourgeraki/s) b ? and died Crete 1906 - They had

two children James Lindsay Couryer b 1894 Suda Bay and Nellie (could be Helen I guess) Kourgeraki b 1895.

The family lived in "Lindsay House" Crete, which an older James Lindsay built in 1869 and moved his family there.

Other family names (tho I have no information) were Themaki, Naxaki
Judy

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Europe / Re: Any bdm sites for Suda (Souda), Crete, Greece?
« on: Sunday 21 October 18 12:03 BST (UK)  »
My apologies, first I need dates of birth and marriages.  The family, well one half of it, was living in Lindsay House at Suda during Ww 2

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Europe / Any bdm sites for Suda (Souda), Crete, Greece?
« on: Saturday 20 October 18 23:04 BST (UK)  »
Could anyone help me with a look up bdm in above country - but I cannot speak Greek  >:(

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Chasing Laughland, Lachlan, Lanchline, Laughlan
« on: Sunday 27 May 18 23:11 BST (UK)  »
I lost a whole post  >:(
Samuel is my half grand uncle according to the relationship calculator.
I bought the 1861 census - but it had appeared almost the same as the notes I had previously provided only this time it was shown as Samuel (not Sarah).
William (his father) being 33 - he is a ? labourer b in Ireland, Jane 26 b Renfrewshire, Paisley, Samuel 10, Scholar of Lanarkshire, Glasgow, William Jnr 2, son of Ayreshire, Auchinleck and then George ? mths, of Paisley, Renfrewshire.    Just in case you were wondering, my grandfather was definitely was born in Auchinleck (Cronberry in fact) as his father was working in the mines at the time.  I cannot read what sort of labourer he was (it says something labour).  I am  having trouble saving this census - for some reason it won't open.   Will have to contact Scotlands People.

So it's back to the drawing board to find out if it was Elizabeth Kerr who married William Laughland.

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Chasing Laughland, Lachlan, Lanchline, Laughlan
« on: Sunday 27 May 18 07:36 BST (UK)  »
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What I posted was a link to show what church records are available as far as baptisms, marriages, etc. Civil registration of births started in 1864. The microfilm is at PRONI but not online.

shows a Sarah Langhland as 10 (and the person thinks its a bad transcription, that it should be Samuel who would be 10 in 1861.    The next person is my grandfather (W J Langhland)   I have today written to Ancestry to see if it can be proven or fixed.
The census image should be in Scotland's People database which would show what is actually written rather than Ancestry's transcription.

It should, but I can't find it.   I have written to them to ask if they can find it, as all the details are on it. 
Moderator comment:edited for content. Please do not copy and paste information from commercial sites, you must transcribe what you see in the images
Not sure what I posted that was deleted, but as I said earlier, these are from my notes
Name: Sarah Langhland
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Jane
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 573/3
Registration district: Paisley Middle Church
Civil parish: Paisley Middle Church
Town: Paisley
County: Renfrewshire
Address: 8 Moncrieff St
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 12
Household schedule number: 35
Line: 12
Roll: CSSCT1861_80
Household Members: Name Age
William Langhland 33 born Ireland
Jane Langhland 26 born Paisley
Sarah Langhland 10
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Just found some more notes of the 1861 census, but I dont have a copy of it, and I cant find it on Scotlands People
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1861 Census of Scotland
Moncrieff St
William Laughland H Married 33 Miners Labourer
Jane Laughland W  Married 26
Samuel son 10 scholar
William John Son 2
George Laughland Son 6 months

Here, William is 33 and a miners labourer.

So it is William and Jane Grieve Loughlin who are your direct ancestors and their eldest child William John?   Then back to Ireland and  William's father William and his wife Jane Stewart.  Samuel, the son of William and his first wife Elizabeth who died in 1854, would be the half brother of William John.  And a step  gt uncle? Is that your reading of it? [/size]
  Correct, Not sure who is the step gt uncle of who though.

That's up to date I think, will check and see if there are any more questions to be answered.

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Chasing Laughland, Lachlan, Lanchline, Laughlan
« on: Saturday 26 May 18 05:26 BST (UK)  »
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I am not sure if the Bell option is a goer, yet. The reason for this is that while you have put William's status in the 1851 census you have not put Elisabeth's or John Bell's.  So what did she say her relationship was to either the Bell family or even to William himself.  In the 1851 census there is a 10 year old Elisabeth.  I think to explore the Bell connection then concentrate on tracking back or forward the Bell family  appearing in the 1851 census where you find William, Samuel and Elisabeth.  It may be that they were known to either of the Ireland based families, they may have gone over before.  I would also see if I could see a connection between the 10 year old Elizabeth Bell and the 24 year old Elisabeth Laughlin.....god parent, sponsor etc?
I showed you earlier that Elisabeth was 24 and shown as the daughter of William Bell in 1861 Census

OK I give up - we will go for Kerr then.

In 1851
Name:   Elizabeth Bell
Age:   24
Relationship:   Daughter

Father:   William Bell
Mother:   Mary Bell
Gender:   Female
Where born:   Barony, Lanark
Town:   Barrachnie
County:   Lanarkshire
Address:   Flocks
Occupation:   At Home
ED:   31
Page:   18
Household schedule number:   64
LINE:   16

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William was born in Drumachose, Derry. on 15th April 1827.
This would likely be Drumachose Parish in Co. Londonderry. If the marriage was Church of Ireland then the records are quite good for such an early period.  C.I.  Drumachose  (Derry diocese)  Baptisms, 1730-52 and 1804-98; marriages, 1728-53 and 1805-45; burials, 1730-36 and 1804-81; etc. https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/sites/default/files/publications/Guide_to_church_records.pdf
  This didn't help (the site) to find any births, is there any other site?

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Is the death of Elisabeth Bell in 1854 under the name Bell or Laughlin or alternative spelling?
Elisabeth Lanchline (copy sent earlier)
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Not sure when exactly Samuel was born in 1851, but there is a Lanarkshire death for a wee baby with a parent called William.
It may be that Elizabeth Kerr/Bell Loughlin died around then?
Name   Mclachlan
Gender   Male
Birth Date   01 Nov 1852
Birthplace   GLASGOW,LANARK,SCOTLAND
Death Date   01 Nov 1852
Father's Name   William Mclachlan[/quote]
Cant be right because as I said, he was mentioned in both 1861 census with William (Laughlan) and Jane (Grieve)
I was told years ago that this census
William Langhland
 in the 1861 Scotland Census

1861 Scotland Census
Name:   William Langhland
Age:   33
Relationship:   Head
Spouse's name :   Jane Langhland
Gender:   Male
Where born:   Irland
Town:   Paisley
Address:   8 Moncrieff St
Occupation:   Meness Labour
ED:   12
Household schedule number:   35
LINE:   10


shows a Sarah Langhland as 10 (and the person thinks its a bad transcription, that it should be Samuel who would be 10 in 1861.    The next person is my grandfather (W J Langhland)   I have today written to Ancestry to see if it can be proven or fixed.

Moderator comment:edited for content. Please do not copy and paste information from commercial sites, you must transcribe what you see in the images

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Chasing Laughland, Lachlan, Lanchline, Laughlan
« on: Saturday 26 May 18 04:21 BST (UK)  »
fingers crossed

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Chasing Laughland, Lachlan, Lanchline, Laughlan
« on: Saturday 26 May 18 02:07 BST (UK)  »
It came up once, but disappeared again :(  no trying to send L3 & death cert.

I give up - I really must go, will try again when I get home.

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Chasing Laughland, Lachlan, Lanchline, Laughlan
« on: Saturday 26 May 18 01:59 BST (UK)  »
am having trouble attaching.  Will keep trying.

Sorry, I have to go out - I will try again when I get home.  I know it doesnt make sense right now - I'll try once more.

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