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Surrey / Re: Wills for Southwark, St George the Martyr around 1697
« on: Friday 21 August 20 10:11 BST (UK)  »
Oops! That's me told then!
Obviously didn't read the page in the link well enough.
Sorry  :-[

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Surrey / Re: Wills for Southwark, St George the Martyr around 1697
« on: Thursday 20 August 20 22:25 BST (UK)  »
Not sure if you've seen my reply from about 10 days ago about 'Southweeke' being an old variation of the 'Southwark', which may prove helpful to you.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: 17th Century Will examples?
« on: Thursday 20 August 20 11:24 BST (UK)  »
........king of England Scotland France and Ireland defender
of the faith etc.........

.........of Newington greene in the County
of Midd* Gent being att this p(re)sent sicke and weake in bodie........

*Midd - an abbreviation for Middlesex I'd think

p(re)sent - you'll find the 'p' with superscript can variously represent 'pre', 'pro' 'per' in context.

Note it's 'greene' not 'groom' after Newington - he's not likely to be a 'Gent' and a 'groom'!  :)

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: 17th Century Will examples?
« on: Thursday 20 August 20 09:51 BST (UK)  »
The site 'Shakespeare's World" has a lot of pages on Paleography.
https://www.shakespearesworld.org/#/guide/general
They may have some transcribed examples of there.

This site has a lot of terms used in wills and general information:
https://www.opcdorset.org/fordingtondorset/Files/Glossary.html

This Nottingham University site is a mine of information.
If you scroll down this page, there is an image of a will (albeit from 1762), and a transcription of it.
It gives you an idea of how wills are composed.
https://www.nottingham.ac.uk/manuscriptsandspecialcollections/researchguidance/deedsindepth/associated/will.aspx

You could always put, say, the first part here on Rootschat, where no doubt some one will be able to give you a head's start.  :)

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Crossed letter sections - need some help please.
« on: Wednesday 19 August 20 05:31 BST (UK)  »
Was she definitely called 'Marion'? Or is that what you're trying to find out?
Certainly 'My Darling.............'



So who was living at 67, or 51, Queensbury Street, Cheltenham in 1881 and 1891 Censues?
Maybe not Cheltenham then - the word looks too short?

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Crossed letter sections - need some help please.
« on: Wednesday 19 August 20 05:25 BST (UK)  »
Date of ........ 9th /84 - possibly just a little squiggle for 'th' . I know I don't write 'th' clearly when I write the date!

The number of the house could be 51.
The top of the '5' making the '1' look like a 7.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Need help with deciphering Father's first and last name and wife's name
« on: Tuesday 18 August 20 23:35 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: arthurk on Tuesday 18 August 20 11:25 BST (UK)
Is the father's name Silvester?

That was my first thought, but then I thought it was a funny little 's' in the middle; the 't' was unclear because of the loop from the letter above; and then possibly an 'e' with a little 'r' superscript at the end? All quite a lot of uncertainties.
Happy others decided it was the same.  :)

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Brick wall help! William Thomas Grace
« on: Tuesday 18 August 20 22:59 BST (UK)  »
What's the last date you have for him?
Last child's birth?

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Need help with deciphering Father's first and last name and wife's name
« on: Tuesday 18 August 20 10:59 BST (UK)  »
James son of ? whitwell & Issabell his wyfe Bapt 30th

The father's name look like possibly g i l v e ....

Is it possible to take a larger screenshot around it - some of the part of the letters of the words above it make it difficult to see exactly what's going on with the letters at the end of his name.
I think it's possibly a 'G' at the beginning. Possibly an 'S'.
Can you see another name on the page that starts with the same letter, or definitely an 'S' or 'G', so we can compare it?

If it was "S' it could be Silve....

A darker version - not sure it helps much!

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