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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: What I did when I got my DNA results
« on: Sunday 16 February 20 10:10 GMT (UK)  »
Hi everyone,

What a great thread!  I am a definite newbie to DNA testing but if it helps anyone else, this is what I have done so far since receiving a MyHeritage DNA kit for Christmas:

1.   MyHeritageDNA kit for Christmas

2.   Whilst waiting for kit results:
a.   Made sure that I kept developing my family tree
b.   Starting reading book tracing your ancestors using DNA: A guide for family historians (a bit heavy!)

3.   When kit results returned:
a.   Contacted top two on MyHeritage DNA matches
i.   Top one replied, quickly establishing the link between the first match and the second match on my matches list.
ii.   Established that most recent direct common direct ancestor were great great grandparents
iii.   Was able to add a few more names to my tree.

4.   After kit results returned:
a.   Downloaded raw results from MyHeritage
b.   Uploaded results to gedmatch
c.   Uploaded results to Family Tree DNA
d.   Uploaded results to DNA Painter

5.   Where next?
a.   Although I have uploaded to the sites in 4 above I still need to work out exactly how to get the best out of them (any and all advice welcome!)

Nic

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Northumberland / Re: Looking for Robert Patterson's (m. 1813 Newcastle) birth and parents
« on: Wednesday 05 February 20 15:12 GMT (UK)  »
Appleyard - the other person in the grave is a George Henry Appleyard, Grocer, who was buried 6 Aug 1926, age 55. Died of Suffocation
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-996P-FS6K?i=691&cat=705074

I wonder how the Appleyards link to the Pattersons (or is it to the Watkinsons) - one for the backburner!

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Wow - this keeps getting more mysterious!  Thank you Jonw65.

Although William married Mary Lawton in 1835 I have them separated by 1851 as in an article in an 1856 newspaper it describes an argument on Hull docks and that they had been "separated 5 years". I wonder why she is down as his wife in 1882?

He then has children (Linda (1861), Charles King (1866) and Arthur Barrington (1868)) with Eliza Barley who in his will is described as his Housekeeper but in the 1881 census as his wife (I haven't found evidence that they married).  He then went on to die as the Engineer on board "Milo" in Stettin, Kingdom of Prussia in 1882.

Edit:  The article mentioning William and Mary's separation is from the Hull Packet - Friday 15 August 1856 (Hull Police Court > Monday > A Naughty Tongue  :P)

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I presume it is a mistake of some kind. Only have the baptism of Sarah Jane, 6 May 1837, Hull, as already given. Have you found baptisms/birth registrations of the other children?

In the 1841 census the children shown are:
Sarah Jane, aged 40 (or 4?) born Yorkshire - Christening 06 May 1837 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NRQB-QHV
Mary Ann, aged 4 born Yorkshire -
William, aged 1 month, born Yorkshire - baptised 30/11/1840
John, aged 14, born Yorkshire (son of Robert and Eleanor)

I haven't found Mary Ann or John yet.


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There are three Robert Pattersons buried 1832 listed in the Tynemouth Deanery volume:

Tynemouth: 6 March 1832
Address: Coble Dean
Age 81

Tynemouth:  6 May 1832
Address: Chirton
Age 45

Wallsend: 22.9.1832
Address: Howdon Panns
Age 11

Also there were earlier Roberts:

Wallsend: 29 July 1818
Address: Willington
Age: 66

Tynemouth: 31 December 1822
Address: Chirton
Age 60

Although, I am not able to look at the actual burial registers just now, I think the Tynemouth burials may relate to Christ Church and the Wallsend to St Peter's Church.

Thank you - I have Robert living in Ouse Burn in 1814 when he got married and from what I can see all of the locations you have kindly found are within 5-7 miles of there.  I also know that he must have died between 1827 (last child I have recorded) and 1841 (when his wife is living with their son).

Of the ones you have found, "Tynemouth:  6 May 1832 Address: Chirton Age 45" seems the best possibility as that Robert would have been born about 1787 and married at about 26 years old.  I am not sure of the chances of the family moving from Ouse Burn to Chirton, however, in 1841 they were in Hull.

Hmm - what to do next?   ???

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Possibility for John in BT 113?  :-\
Ticket issued at Newcastle, 14 Dec 1844. Age 17
John Pattison
Born at Durham, County of Durham, 31 March 1827
Capacity Seaman
First went to sea as Boy in 1840
When unemployed resides at Hull.
Can write - No

Sorry Jon,  catching up with all you wonderful help and trying to add the sources to my tree.  Could you tell me where you got this one from please?

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On Sarah Jane
1837 baptism - father William an Engineer
1861 marriage - age 25, Spinster, residence Osborne Street, father William Patterson, Engineer
Thomas Briney, 35, Widower, Brickmaker, residence same, father late Peter Briney, Labourer
Witnessed by Mary Ann Patterson.

Hi Jonw65, does this mean that the 40 on the 1841 census should be 4 and does that bring in the possibility that Sarah Jane and Mary Ann are twins?

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Here is the marriage (Durham Bishops Transcripts), as you can see, there is no provision for parental names https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-X47S-47V?i=750&wc=9K5Q-DP8%3A13617901%2C26205601%2C26304601&cc=1309819

Interesting to see that the witnesses were the same for most of the weddings on this page and that there is also a 'Dunn' - I wonder if this is a relative of Eleanor's?

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When Robert Patterson married at All Saints, Newcastle on 22 March 1813, on the records I have seen his wife was noted as Eleanor or Elizabeth Dunn.

Image of BT says Eleanor Dunn, no mention of Elizabeth
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-X47S-47V?i=750&cc=1309819&cat=1809362

On FindMyPast the entry on the transcription for Spouse's last name is "Eleanor or Elizabeth"

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