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Derbyshire / Susannah Fletcher born c 1838 in Horsley Woodhouse - where do I go from here?
« on: Friday 02 June 17 16:25 BST (UK)  »
Trying to find the above lady's parents, I can find her on the 1851 and 1861 census as Susannah Fletcher.  She has a father William and several siblings.  On the 1851 census (ref H.O.107/2144 Horsley Woodhouse) mum's name is illegible.  William is a widower on 1861 census. Can't find them on the 1841 census at all.
Looking on the GRO index for Susannah and subsequent children, the mother's maiden name is given as OLDKNOW  but try as I might I can't find a Fletcher/Oldknow marriage. Fletcher is a fairly common name and even if I search deaths in the Belper area only between 1853 (the date her last child was born) and 1861 without a christian name there are too many to be sure which is her.
I have Susanah's remaining history, she marries and moves to Chesterfield where she dies in 1914.  As I said, where do I go from here?

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The Common Room / Re: William Eyre of Chesterfield: Can't find his death
« on: Saturday 18 February 17 20:06 GMT (UK)  »
After your last comment I went back and found William on the 1861 census(which I'd never been able to find) with his parents  and his age was 3 so his age was out by ten years as well.  Then found his baptism on 28th June 1857 at Brampton where he was born.  So it looks like that is the right death.  I shall be over in Chesterfield next week so I'll see what Chesterfield Library has got in their newspaper microfiche for this time. Maybe a report or an obit or even a coroners report.
Thanks for making me rethink this.  Sometimes an extra brain on the job works wonders
Liz TJ

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The Common Room / Re: William Eyre of Chesterfield: Can't find his death
« on: Saturday 18 February 17 18:07 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Carole,
I had excluded that one on the grounds that William was too old, he would have been 42 in 1889 not 34.  Sorry didn't include his year of birth on the original post.  It's Ann's age that's wrong in the 1881 census.

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The Common Room / William Eyre of Chesterfield: Can't find his death
« on: Saturday 18 February 17 16:51 GMT (UK)  »
Hi all, when this mans son, Samuel, married my great aunt Clara Dannatt in 1908 it says 'cabman' and 'deceased' under father.  So, out of interest or pure nosiness I have tried several times to find Williams death.  I cant find the right name and age in the area.  BUT what seems to be a tragic split of a family has occurred.
All the family are together on the 1881 census 14 Silk Mill Yard. Samuel is not born till 1883 so obviously won't be on this census.  However on the 1891 census he and three of his brothers are in Chesterfield Industrial Union School. His mum and three sisters are now at 16 Silk Mill Yard. Can't find William at all.  I know the Industrial School Later became Ashgate Childrens Home.  Can't find Samuel on the 1901 census, but he is on the 1911 with wife Clara and two children.
How far would a cab-man travel in 1880's/ 1890's as I presume this would be horse-drawn travel.  If it was a distance away would his death be registered in that area?  Would his death be reported in Chesterfield newspapers?
Any suggestions would help.  Thanks

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The Common Room / Re: Death registered but not birth - is that possible?
« on: Tuesday 10 February 15 22:46 GMT (UK)  »
Hi. wondered if you'd tried the church registers - did they make any mention of a child when she was buried?
Liz

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The Common Room / Re: Original marriage cert v. FreeBMD?
« on: Wednesday 04 February 15 11:40 GMT (UK)  »
Well all, I've had a reply from the archives and they DID marry in 1882.  The previous couple in the records were the same as on FreeBMD.  All the details I gave them were correct except the date.  Sheffield is assuming that the vicar wrote 80 instead of 82 on the couples certificate and it's gone un-noticed for all this time.  Thank you everyone for your input.
Love
Liz

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: History on Wroot family in Doncaster South Yorkshire?
« on: Saturday 31 January 15 13:37 GMT (UK)  »
Have you tried the Isle of Axholme family history group, when I was in it a few years ago I remember seeing that surname quite a lot, I think Wroot was mentioned as a "Lincolnshire Peculiar" surname.

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The Common Room / Re: Original marriage cert v. FreeBMD?
« on: Tuesday 27 January 15 12:07 GMT (UK)  »
Wow.
Thanks Johnxyz and BumbleB, don't know where and how you got that from but it begins to make sense.  I think one of the Ancestry Trees has milicent as a wife, nothing more after that!!??

Panic - personally no, I've found there have been many "adjustments" with ages as you say to bring it more in line with spouse. Worst one I've seen in my researches is man 27 marries girl 17.  His actual age was closer to 31 when they married.  I think girl knew as they had reverted to his actual age when he died. (Note to self look at census ages!)
Again, thanks all
Liz

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The Common Room / Re: Original marriage cert v. FreeBMD?
« on: Monday 26 January 15 18:01 GMT (UK)  »
Had an e-mail from Sheffield Archives, they are on the case now.  Promised me a reply within 28 days.  Don't think the marriage certificate was "interfered" with, she was expecting their first child when they married in Nov 1880 (she has a 1/12 child on the 1881 census) so nothing would have been achieved by that. In 1881 they were living in Hackenthorpe so the addresses would have been wrong too.
It is the original copy dated 1880 that is in the family.
Liz

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