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Roxburghshire / Re: Seeking clarification of Isabel Kerr Car, Orr, Oar) and Malachi Bell of Jedburgh
« on: Saturday 20 May 23 23:42 BST (UK)  »
Yes, thank you, Forfarian. I agree, preferring not to copy other's work if at all possible, original is always best.  If I enter the names, I'll leave it an 'unknown' on my FT until I can find further evidence.  I'm also looking on virtual volumes to find kirk sessions if they exist.  A bit of a tough go, but worth it if I can find anything. 

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Roxburghshire / Re: Seeking clarification of Isabel Kerr Car, Orr, Oar) and Malachi Bell of Jedburgh
« on: Saturday 20 May 23 19:46 BST (UK)  »
And I'm still looking for Malachi married to Isabel.  I'm mindful that Ancestry DNA uses family trees as a source of their matches, but I've been unable thus far, to find which tree has Malachi on their website.  So in this timeframe, will I have to investigate solely on Scotlandspeople Roxburghshire church registers?   

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Roxburghshire / Re: Seeking clarification of Isabel Kerr Car, Orr, Oar) and Malachi Bell of Jedburgh
« on: Saturday 20 May 23 19:45 BST (UK)  »
Thank you everyone for your advice and direction.
a) Yes, I have Agnes' death certificate, so will go with the information on that.  I've really been keen to find her birth registration.  Margaret and David were faithful registrants for their other children.  So I'm going to continue to explore the notion that Agnes may have been born illegitimate, or born an Easton. 
b) yes, I've looked at some other's family trees (though probably not all that's out there) for insight and information, but I'm always on the hunt for an actual registration to attach to my tree.  I know that gets harder the further back one goes.
Many thanks again.   

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Roxburghshire / Seeking clarification of Isabel Kerr Car, Orr, Oar) and Malachi Bell of Jedburgh
« on: Tuesday 16 May 23 23:11 BST (UK)  »
Hello,
I last wrote the group in 2016 seeking information about my husband's g grandfather, Adam Bell b. Jedburgh 1839 died 1906 Toronto, Ontario, the son of Agnes Easton Bell and James Hardie.  The forum gave me great information. Now, my husband has DNA matches to be evaluated, which we didn't have the first time around.  In 2016, I'd taken Adam back one generation to his mother, Agnes Easton Bell, who records indicate, was born c. 1815, died 1868 in Denholm, age 54.  Some family trees show her parents are Margaret Brown and David Bell, although this couple wasn't married until 1826, and neither this forum nor I were able to confirm Agnes' birth records.  I thought perhaps she was an Easton rather than a Bell.  So there are several gaps in that timeline that I'll continue to work on.

In the meantime, I'm writing because I'm stuck at his 4th generation grandfather, who has the distinctive name of Malachi Bell, no dates.  I'd have thought with a name like that, that he might be easy to find on either Scotlandspeople or Familysearch, even though 1700s records are fuzzy.  According to the match list, he m. Isabel Kerr (Car, Oar, Orr) (1740-1832).   I've found an Isabel Orr mentioned in several records, but not married to a Malachi Bell. 

Going back to the last generation listed, my husband's 5th generation grandparents are Robert Orr (Oar) 1727-1800 (no wife listed); James Bell (1739-1819) and Janet Brown (1750-1825); I found them married at Crailing on Aug.6 1775; and John Bell of Minsca and Torbeckhill (1712-1778) and Mary Glendinning (1718-1788).  They married on Dec. 6, 1739 in Torthorwald, Dumfries.  I've found several articles about the Minsca and Torbeckhill Bells, but once again, none linking a Bell to an Orr. 

Any advice or thoughts on a direction to go would be very welcomed. 
Thanks very much.  Jean in Calgary, Alberta, Canada.

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Roxburghshire / Re: Easton in Jedburgh
« on: Friday 13 October 17 21:33 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for this additional information, Terianne and Moo.  I'll bring out my Easton files and take another look with all this in hand.  Jean

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Inverness / Re: help with place-name, please
« on: Saturday 12 November 16 01:55 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks so much, makes perfect sense!!

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Inverness / help with place-name, please
« on: Friday 11 November 16 21:36 GMT (UK)  »
I have a note about an ancestor that lists a place of residence as "Dumdal" or Dumdahl" Inverness.
Anyone ever heard of it?  My ancestor mostly lived in the Knockando-Cromdale area.  Thanks.

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Renfrewshire / Re: Paisley Burial Grounds
« on: Monday 07 November 16 16:09 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you very much!!

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Renfrewshire / Re: Paisley Burial Grounds
« on: Monday 07 November 16 01:20 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Falkyrn on Friday 06 March 09 18:11 GMT (UK)
Woodside opened around 1845 and Hawkhead around 1891 but some of the churches had their own burial grounds - although many of these buildings are no longer in use as churches.   St Columbas gaelic Church/chapel in Oakshaw Street had some - the building is now a private dwelling. The High Kirk (now the Trinity Church)at the top of Church Hill also has a small burial section. 

***The Laigh Kirk (Low Church) at the bottom of New Street also had a burial ground, but this building has been converted to an Arts centre and the stones moved.

There is another well overgrown burial ground at the top of School Wynd where it meets Meeting House Lane - it's a big square building and was last being used as a warehouse (may have changed now as its been 3 years since I was in that area) and of course not forgetting the area around the Abbey.
Hello from Canada - regarding this post from several years ago, my ancestor was buried in Laigh Kirk in 1841, but I've been unable to find her name listed in any free transcriptions for this church (or any others in Paisley).  Before I go to the Council offices, I'm curious about your comment that 'the stones were moved'.  Would you know - to where?  Many thanks.  Jean in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. 

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