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Leitrim / Re: Arabella (Cox) Le Bagge From Carrick-on-Shannon
« on: Saturday 14 May 16 02:36 BST (UK)  »

I do have his father as John Le Bagge and his mother as Elizabeth Rutledge.

Their marriage in 1774 was announced in the newspaper as John Bagge, not le Bagge.

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Leitrim / Re: Arabella (Cox) Le Bagge From Carrick-on-Shannon
« on: Saturday 14 May 16 01:54 BST (UK)  »
This tree is rather confusing (you need to work to which page attaches to which) and there are some errors with surnames, but some Bagges tie in here.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~nickred/trees/greatrakes.PDF

Perhaps Walter Croker Poole and Arabella Bagge were distant cousins?

Also back a little further - could be the same Bagge family.

https://books.google.co.nz/books?id=f8kWVOafFtQC&pg=PA87&lpg=PA87&dq=leonard+bagge+kilbree&source=bl&ots=LZ2EnmVytG&sig=xs6m3P8x8FzISy5voECfEHagaO0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwix-NyoqNjMAhULlJQKHUA2At0Q6AEIGzAA#v=onepage&q=leonard%20bagge%20kilbree&f=false


1038
Perhaps the newspapers were being coy about it.

In 1843 her daughter is fined 2 and 6 for damaging underwood.  Would she have been foraging for firewood?

I'd had a nice cosy picture of rural English life for this family until I found them in the newspapers.

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Limerick / Re: Marriage help wanted St Johns Limerick city
« on: Friday 13 May 16 10:07 BST (UK)  »
Do you have any other information about the happy couple and how you found your way back to them?

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I don't think Harriet ever married.

When she was in the house of correction for the second time her eldest daughter gave birth, but did subsequently marry the father and go on to have a large family. Harriet's son-in-law appears in petty session records for not supporting his family (so they fell on parish relief) and for causing a disturbance in the workhouse, for which he got six weeks hard labour. 

Harriet is a pauper in later censuses.  Next to one it says Unmar and then the Un has been crossed out.

I think Harriet was poor and no one ever sets out to be a prostitute, but whoever fathered the first couple of children couldn't or wouldn't support her.


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Australia / Re: Marriage Kennedy/ Cummins 1851 East Maitland Australia
« on: Friday 13 May 16 07:53 BST (UK)  »
Do you have her death certificate?   That may say who her parents were.

Also, the witnesses to the marriage could provide clues.

Could this be a relative?
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/28652513?searchTerm=Cummins%20east%20maitland&searchLimits=l-state=New+South+Wales|||l-decade=184

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Limerick / Re: Marriage help wanted St Johns Limerick city
« on: Friday 13 May 16 05:01 BST (UK)  »
I think it says the witnesses are Michael Molony and Johanna Duffy.

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Thank you Stan.

If she was a prostitute she is the first I've found in the family.  I was surprised at how many illegitimate children she had. 

A few Collingbourne Kingston baptism records name a reputed father, but Harriet hasn't named anyone in the five baptisms I have found.

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