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I have come across some information on this issue but have not kept references so I shall depend on my memory.  I was searching through some undertakers' records for the 1880s and came across some references for bodies from Asylums were to go to  medical schools.  Some others were buried in cemeteries attached to the Asylum (eg my convict ancestor died in Tarban Creek Asylum, Parramatta, Sydney, OZ and was buried in the attached cemetery)

My father's cousin died in 1953 and no parents were listed on his Queensland burial index.  He was buried a fortnight after his death in a pauper's grave.  Information from his cemetery record indicated he had been in an asylum and no next of kin could be located.  (sad family story including in hindsight, probable PTSD from WW1 injuries)

Quite recently in Queensland,  a body had been held in a mortuary for a long time.  NOK had been found and notified of their responsibility for burial but had not acted despite all efforts.  The matter has been taken to court and the State was given permission to bury the body in a pauper's grave.

Some time ago now, I remember reading about how a medical school respected the bodies willed to them.  They conduct memorial ceremonies with the knowledge of the living next of kin.

The Common Room / Re: Ancestry... Public tree contact
« on: Friday 22 June 18 00:53 BST (UK)  »
Xinia - sadly my experience too.  Thanks for your interest though. Gazania

The Common Room / Re: Ancestry... Public tree contact
« on: Thursday 21 June 18 11:16 BST (UK)  »
Oops.  I answer to both JayNQ and gazania.  It is a long story about a Win 10 update wiping out my Rootschat id.

The Common Room / Ancestry... Public tree contact
« on: Thursday 21 June 18 07:27 BST (UK)  »
I am thinking of taking out a month's subs to Anc. as I found a public tree of interest to me and I am wondering if it is worth making contact.

The Tree shows very little knowledge of my family which after 25 years of searching, I have just managed to crack.  So I can certainly pass on a lot to the tree owner.  My question is does the tree owner have to be a current subscriber to respond to my contact ? ( that is of course if they able or willing to do so.)  I am just asking whether it is worth while.  (I do not have a tree on AnC)

Thanks Gazania

Sussex Lookup Requests / prison records - 1882
« on: Saturday 26 May 18 07:56 BST (UK)  »
I found a news item in the Hastings and St Leonards Observer dated Sat 12 Aug 1882 which indicated that at the Hastings Borough Bench on the previous Thurs (ie   10 Aug 1882) that James LANE was sentenced to 2 months hard labour for common assault.

I am asking if there are any prison records available (or any other records) which would give the age/ description of the prisoner.  I am interested to see if this James Lane is a relative.

I have searched the Catalogue for the East Sussex Archives with no success.

Thank you, Gazania

Armed Forces / Invalided out of Navy - "Penelope"
« on: Wednesday 25 April 18 07:25 BST (UK)  »
My request may sound a bit picky.....

My relative had signed up for 10 years with the Royal Navy. Some dates:

11-13 Jul 1882: on board the "Penelope" at the battle of Alexandria (confirms family story)
Jul 1882:    Not on Newspaper casualty lists of wounded/killed on the "Penelope"
6 Oct 1882:   Naval record shows invalided out of Navy (confirms family story)
7 Nov 1882:  "Penelope" returns to Home Port in UK

My question is are there any records which tell me whether he was discharged while on the "Penelope" and remained on board until the ship docked in Nov.  Or could he have been taken off the ship and brought home earlier?  What was the usual practice?

On a 1890 record, his father said he had suffered sunstroke in the past.

Thanks, Gazania

The Common Room / Mistaken Identity - possible effects
« on: Tuesday 24 April 18 00:29 BST (UK)  »
In this our technological age, mistaken or stolen identity is a very serious matter.  Has this happened to any of our ancestors? And what were the repercussions?

My great aunt was a teacher in Queensland in the era when teachers were subject to compulsory transfers around the State.  I obtained her employment record but did not at first check closely the dates of events as most of the places she served were known to me.  However, a closer inspection of the earlier dates, clearly showed appointments well before my great aunt had migrated, and when she was clearly living with her family in the UK on the 1881 census.

It is now obvious that some clerk has confused my great aunt's record with someone of the same name and just tacked it on which made some sense chronologically.  I now wonder if this bureaucratic error affected her career and her standing in the teaching service.  A book has been published about local teachers and my great aunt was named as a bit of a rebel for objecting to some transfers.

I have yet to research the other teacher with the same name and see why her file was not closed off. 

Any thoughts?

The Common Room / Re: Gggrandfather Found after 15years
« on: Sunday 15 April 18 08:11 BST (UK)  »
Wonderful news - congratulations!

I recently made a huge breakthrough.  The key was a tiny obit in an obscure OZ country newspaper that had just been indexed.

My greatgrandfather and his family migrated to Brisbane, OZ, during the 1880s.  All we knew about him was that he was born in Cork, with a very common surname.  We believe any surviving family papers had been burnt on the orders of the coroner on the sudden death in the 1930s of his eldest daughter.  Family story said that he had a brother, name unknown, who was a scripture reader in Liverpool.  Using the censuses of Liverpool, I built up a profile of a likely brother, called William.

My g great grand father also died suddenly while talking to his landlord and this was reported in several newspapers, saying he was originally from Cork.  Then an obscure country newspaper reported he was born in Glanmire, Co Cork.  There he was with the baptism of three sisters and that led to the baptism of another brother, Thomas, in Tipperary.  This Thomas must have been the witness on G grandfather's second marriage in Kent.  (He moved around alot )  I still have not found the bapt of William, the likely brother living in Liverpool.

But then I found a detailed newspaper report of a wedding in Kent of a son of Thomas, where the cousins from Liverpool attended and they were from the family of said William, the scripture reader.  So all these little pieces of the jigsaw are falling into place.  I have been in touch with relatives, There are descendants in Perth, WA and Canada.

So please, never give up. Gazania

The Lighter Side / Re: Happy 'Plan Your Epitaph Day!'
« on: Saturday 07 April 18 01:26 BST (UK)  »
OH's nephew was a knockabout and popular sort of bloke.  His funeral was a dignified, warm with lots of affectionate humour.  At the conclusion there was a feeling of sadness with the last sad but affectionate words.  But as we started to file out of the service, the loudspeakers roared out Monty Python's "Always look on the Bright Side of Life".  Nephew had the last laugh.  We were soon skipping our way to the car park.

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