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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Finding family of RACHEL HALLALEY/HALLILEY
« on: Friday 11 August 17 20:18 BST (UK)  »
Hi Gary,
Thank you for your reply - I've messaged you on here about the parish record and Rachel.


Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Finding family of RACHEL HALLALEY/HALLILEY
« on: Thursday 08 June 17 18:49 BST (UK)  »
Just to add:

Just in case this may help with tracing occurrences of the name, there appear to be HELLELEY's at Felkirk near Barnsley, as well as HELLEWELL's at Penistone.

Yorkshire (West Riding) / Finding family of RACHEL HALLALEY/HALLILEY
« on: Thursday 08 June 17 18:35 BST (UK)  »
Hello all,

I would really appreciate some help researching Rachel Hallaley/Halliley. I know very little about her, only that she married John Bullosse (1715-1799) on 20 Jul 1743 at Wath Upon Dearne. With John, she had the following children (I believe), all baptised at Wentworth:
- John (1745-1815)
- Thomas (b.1746)
- William (1751-1839)
- Anne (b.1754)
- Joseph (b.1756)
- Richard (1758-1773)
- Sarah (b.1763)
- James (1765-1772)
- Elizabeth (b.1768)

And then there's two other possible children that I haven't found baptism records for:
- Rachel, buried 12 Nov 1771 at Wentworth, said to be the daughter of John Bulloss
- Samuel, said to be the son of John (a butcher) and Rachel Bulloss, according to Samuel's son John's baptism in 1777 at Wentworth.

I think Rachel's husband John Bulloss(e) (sometimes spelled Bullhouse) was a butcher, turned farmer. What would really help me trace Rachel's parents and siblings would be to find her burial record - I found one that looked promising at Wentworth:
- Rachel Bullosse, from Thorpe Hesley (where most of the children were born, but they were baptized up the hill at Wentworth), wife of John (a butcher), buried at Wentworth 08/10/1785, died of jaundice. Despite this, the age given is 44 years, which is much too young for my Rachel (44 yrs old would give a birth date of 1741, which is only 2 years before the marriage to John Bullosse).

Any help with this would be much appreciated.

P.S. The name Halliley/Hallaley is an unusual one, on the Genuki website the name is sometimes transcribed as Halliday. I've found no trace of Halliley's/Halliday's at Wath Upon Dearne, and only two burials featuring the name at Wentworth - John Hallilay/Halliday aged 82 years from Cortwood, buried 14/07/1779, a labourer. And Jane Hallilay/Halliday aged 73 years from Cortwood, wife of John (2nd wife), buried 23/06/1778.

Thank you for all your replies.

Elizabeth Dobb, James's second wife was born about 1793 in Rotherham (I believe she was the daughter of Thomas Dobb and Martha Eyre, baptized 5 Jan 1794 at Rotherham All Saints). On the wedding document for James and Elizabeth, it says that Elizabeth was a spinster, and that James was widowed - so then I went looking for a possible marriage for James.
The most feasible one I could find was to Jane Snidall, at Sheffield, on 14 Jan 1811. I believe this Jane was born 1788, baptized 12 Oct 1788 in Sheffield. Jane passed away in March 1814, buried 11 March 1814, at Attercliffe, where she is said to be 25 years old, and the wife of James.

Groom -

That's what I was thinking with him being 17 at the second marriage, not very likely at all. And with the first marriage being 4 years previous to this - it would have made him 14, so his birth date must be earlier than the 1797 suggested in the censuses.

The Vincent born 1770 would have been 17 years older than the brother he had, called James, who was born in 1787, which would make him a feasible sibling. Not so much if his brother had been born in 1797 like it suggested on censuses for my James. But I think it is likely that my James could be the James born 1787, brother of Vincent, in Clarborough. Both this James and his brother Vincent had a father's name of Joseph - a name which my James gave to one of his sons.

Hello all,

I am currently researching the Fletcher side of my family.
My ancestor is JAMES FLETCHER, an agricultural labourer, born apparently about 1797 in Clarborough in Nottinghamshire, according to the 1851 census. He married Elizabeth Dobb at Cathedral St Peter, Sheffield, on 30 May 1814. James and Elizabeth had the following children; Mary Ann, Vincent, Catherine, James, Martha, Jane, Elizabeth, Fanny and Joseph.

Now I was trying to trace the ancestry of James Fletcher (who married Elizabeth Dobb), and yet I'm struggling to find a baptism for him. Both the 1841 and 1851 censuses suggested the 1797 date and place (the 1841 suggested he wasn't born in Yorkshire, which was where he was living at the time).
Now with his son having the (quite) unusual name of Vincent, I decided to look for possible relatives called Vincent. I found a baptism for a VINCENT FLETCHER, bap 29 Apr 1770 in Clarborough, Notts, the son of Joseph. Could this be a brother of James? I found a sibling to Vincent called James, this James being baptised 11 Nov 1787 at Clarborough, but obviously this is 10 years too early from what I was given in the censuses.
Despite this, I'm thinking this could be the right man - my James had already been widowed when he married Elizabeth Dobb, and I believe his first marriage was to Jane Snidall in Sheffield in 1811 - which would invalidate the date given on the censuses as he would have been only 14.

What do the people of rootschat think? Could this be my James, but he's given the wrong birth date?
Many thanks for any help,


United States of America / Re: James MCWEENY, late 1800's, Massachusetts
« on: Tuesday 11 April 17 23:57 BST (UK)  »
Wow! The Rootschat community never ceases to amaze me! One of the major discoveries there is James's record for Naturalization - I knew he was from Leitrim, but didn't know it was Carrick, so hopefully that will take me one step closer to tracing him and his ancestors in Ireland!
And I'm very glad to see that it looks like his 3 youngest children went with him, and that they seem to have grown up and married in America.

I shall spend some time looking through all these links and making notes, but thank you so much to all of you! :)

United States of America / Re: James MCWEENY, late 1800's, Massachusetts
« on: Tuesday 11 April 17 11:24 BST (UK)  »
shellyesq - Thank you, I'll have a look through the newspapers to see if I can find anything.
I've also had a look for 1891 census records in England (the next one after Elizabeth's death) for all of the older children of James and Elizabeth (Catherine b. 1849, Elizabeth b.1851, William b.1854, George b.1857, John b.1859, Ellen b.1862, Mary b.1864, and James b.1867) to see if they had taken the younger siblings in, but I can't find any trace of them. Elizabeth only had one known brother, and he's not living with any of the children either. James McWeeny had a few siblings I know about (Catherine b.1829 who married Ambrose Dolphin, William McWeeny b.1832 who married Fanny Holbery, and Thomas b.abt1836 and Patrick b.abt1838), but again, I can't find them with any of the children. The grandparents (James's parents Andrew McWeeny and Ellen, and Elizabeth's parents John Larkin and Elizabeth) had all already died by 1891.

Oneday - I've also found them registered as McWeling in Bradford on one census. Again, I can't seem to find them under variations either. I know the McWeeny's originally came from County Leitrim, I don't know exactly which parish though, but James McWeeny and his brother William were at least born there.

United States of America / James MCWEENY, late 1800's, Massachusetts
« on: Monday 10 April 17 20:44 BST (UK)  »
Hello all,

I was originally tracing my MCWEENY line in Bradford (Yorkshire, England), but it seems now my search for more details on the life of James McWeeny (my 4x great grandfather) is taking me to the U.S.A.

James was originally married to Elizabeth Larkin (married at Ecclesall Bierlow, Sheffield, in 1848), where they had most of their children in Rotherham (Yorkshire), with the last child born in Bradford (Yorkshire). The children were born between 1849 and 1876. I believe that Elizabeth died in Bradford in the Jan-Feb-Mar quarter of 1882, leaving behind James and their 11 children.

Now I was looking long and hard for a death for James McWeeny, and couldn't find one anywhere. I couldn't find any more censuses for him, or his youngest three children Joseph (b.1870, Rotherham), Annie (b. 1872, Rotherham) and Agnes (b.1876 Bradford) either.
But it looks as though James McWeeny emigrated to the USA about 1882-1884, where he married Amelia Haslam in 1884 in the city of Lawrence, Massachusetts. I have then traced him with her - they had a daughter called Edith, born 1885 in Massachusetts. He then died in 1898.

However, I cannot find any trace of Joseph, Annie or Agnes (James and Elizabeth's youngest three children). I thought that maybe they stayed in England with their older siblings, but I can't find them anywhere. Nor can I find any deaths. So that takes me to America - could they have emigrated with their father? Or did James leave all 11 of his children behind in England?

Any help with this would be greatly appreciated, as it's taken me months just to trace James in the USA. And so far I can't find the three children in the USA.
Many thanks,

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