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United States of America / Re: James MCWEENY, late 1800's, Massachusetts
« on: Tuesday 11 April 17 11:24 BST (UK)  »
shellyesq - Thank you, I'll have a look through the newspapers to see if I can find anything.
I've also had a look for 1891 census records in England (the next one after Elizabeth's death) for all of the older children of James and Elizabeth (Catherine b. 1849, Elizabeth b.1851, William b.1854, George b.1857, John b.1859, Ellen b.1862, Mary b.1864, and James b.1867) to see if they had taken the younger siblings in, but I can't find any trace of them. Elizabeth only had one known brother, and he's not living with any of the children either. James McWeeny had a few siblings I know about (Catherine b.1829 who married Ambrose Dolphin, William McWeeny b.1832 who married Fanny Holbery, and Thomas b.abt1836 and Patrick b.abt1838), but again, I can't find them with any of the children. The grandparents (James's parents Andrew McWeeny and Ellen, and Elizabeth's parents John Larkin and Elizabeth) had all already died by 1891.

Oneday - I've also found them registered as McWeling in Bradford on one census. Again, I can't seem to find them under variations either. I know the McWeeny's originally came from County Leitrim, I don't know exactly which parish though, but James McWeeny and his brother William were at least born there.

United States of America / James MCWEENY, late 1800's, Massachusetts
« on: Monday 10 April 17 20:44 BST (UK)  »
Hello all,

I was originally tracing my MCWEENY line in Bradford (Yorkshire, England), but it seems now my search for more details on the life of James McWeeny (my 4x great grandfather) is taking me to the U.S.A.

James was originally married to Elizabeth Larkin (married at Ecclesall Bierlow, Sheffield, in 1848), where they had most of their children in Rotherham (Yorkshire), with the last child born in Bradford (Yorkshire). The children were born between 1849 and 1876. I believe that Elizabeth died in Bradford in the Jan-Feb-Mar quarter of 1882, leaving behind James and their 11 children.

Now I was looking long and hard for a death for James McWeeny, and couldn't find one anywhere. I couldn't find any more censuses for him, or his youngest three children Joseph (b.1870, Rotherham), Annie (b. 1872, Rotherham) and Agnes (b.1876 Bradford) either.
But it looks as though James McWeeny emigrated to the USA about 1882-1884, where he married Amelia Haslam in 1884 in the city of Lawrence, Massachusetts. I have then traced him with her - they had a daughter called Edith, born 1885 in Massachusetts. He then died in 1898.

However, I cannot find any trace of Joseph, Annie or Agnes (James and Elizabeth's youngest three children). I thought that maybe they stayed in England with their older siblings, but I can't find them anywhere. Nor can I find any deaths. So that takes me to America - could they have emigrated with their father? Or did James leave all 11 of his children behind in England?

Any help with this would be greatly appreciated, as it's taken me months just to trace James in the USA. And so far I can't find the three children in the USA.
Many thanks,

Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Thomas Cullon death certificate 1882
« on: Friday 07 April 17 12:50 BST (UK)  »
Thank you both  :)

Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Thomas Cullon death certificate 1882
« on: Friday 07 April 17 01:11 BST (UK)  »
Hello all,
I've attached a photo of 'cause of death' on a death certificate of my ancestor Thomas Cullon, who was 31 years old when he died in 1882.

I can make out the words spinal sclerosis and paraplegia, but I'm struggling to read the other words.
Help would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Hi Holly,
I was only coincidentally looking at Ann Venables and William Smart on the census trying to trace them after 1861, yesterday, I think I found 2 of their sons in Sutton, Lancashire in 1891 but not 100% it is them
Anyway Maria Venables married Samuel Bullas on 16 March 1846 at Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcestershire. Their daughter Sarah Elizabeth Venables Bullas born 20 Oct 1841 at Tipton, Staffordshire married John Boden on 19 July 1858 at St Andrew, Netherton, Dudley, Staffordshire. Their daughter Maria Boden born 1863 married John Martin on 5 March 1882 at St. Mark, Ocker Hill, Tipton, Staffordshire. Their daughter Maria Martin born 21 January 1887 in Dudley Port, Staffordshire was my grandmother, she married Samuel Butterfield in Leeds in 1903.
I am in Leeds, where are you in Yorkshire?

Thank you for all that information! It's always great to hear from people who are related in some way or another.
I am currently in Lincolnshire but I do normally live in Yorkshire near Sheffield - most of my family are from Yorkshire, with only links to other counties further back in the family lines.

William and Elizabeth Venables are my 4 x great grandparents.
I have also drawn a blank on Elizabeth's surname.
I am begining to think they were not married.
How are you connected to them.
I am descended from their daughter Maria Venables on my mothers line.

Hi Mark,
I am descended from their daughter Ann Venables, born 1825 in Tipton. Ann had an illegitimate son called Robert Davis Venables (son of a miner called Robert Davis, who's identity I do not know). She then married William Smart and had six children with him, called James, Elizah, John Thomas, Benjamin, Ann and Joseph, born between 1849 and 1867.
I am descended from the illegitimate son, Robert Davis Venables, who married Patience Perrins, and the two of them moved to Yorkshire.

I hadn't found much information about Maria Venables, so I'd be very grateful to hear about her.

Kind regards,

Shropshire / LEWIS AND TISDALE, early 1800s - finding their families
« on: Sunday 19 February 17 23:32 GMT (UK)  »
Hello all,

As the subject title suggests, I'm currently trying to research two people; THOMAS LEWIS and SARAH TISDALE. They married on 7 Jun 1827 at St Chads in Shrewsbury, and had the following children;
- Emily Lewis (my ancestor) b.1828 Shrewsbury
- Edward Philip Lewis b. 1830 Shrewsbury
- John Lewis b. abt 1833
- William Lewis b. abt 1836
- Eliza Lewis b. abt 1842 in Wolverhampton

Now, I am wanting to find the families (e.g. parents and siblings) of Thomas Lewis and Sarah Tisdale. It's proving quite hard though. This is what I know about each of them:

a carpenter and joiner, born about 1806-1809 according to 1841 and 1851 censuses. Birthplace is said to be Marton in Shropshire on 1851 census.

a bonnet maker in 1851, born 1809-1811 according to 1841 and 1851 censuses. Birthplace is unclear, but looks something like 'Weebatch' in Shropshire, according to 1851 census. 1841 census just says that she wasn't born in Staffordshire.

Any help tracing these two would be great. I can't find them alive on a census in 1861, they were living in Staffordshire in 1851. There are so many choices for deaths between 1851-1861 that I have no idea which one it could be, if indeed they did die in this time frame.

Thank you for any help and/or advice offered,
Much appreciated,

The Lighter Side / Re: Mentioning family research on a CV
« on: Saturday 18 February 17 22:46 GMT (UK)  »
I was very curious to read this thread, as I'm currently a University Student so still have CV's to write in the future. I do not know anyone around my age who researches ancestry, I often get the impression that people around my age aren't interested in ancestry, which seems a shame to me - the things I have been able to tell my parents and grandparents, who aren't as comfortable with computers as myself, about their ancestry never fails to make me smile - it's truly a rewarding hobby; and on many occasions, sitting with my grandmother telling her about the people she never got to meet, has been an amazing experience - we have laughed and cried together, and I am so glad that I took it up at this age.

I hope that I will be able to mention my ancestry researching on my CV's, as it has certainly helped develop many skills for me - all the skills that you all have mentioned, plus it has helped my communication skills, as contacting a variety of people on a regular basis around the world is a common theme for me now. I certainly don't think it's a bad thing to research ancestry, I just hope that other people won't have negative presumptions about it.

Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: dna results
« on: Saturday 18 February 17 22:11 GMT (UK)  »

That's rather interesting, I didn't think DNA that far back would be in big enough proportion to show up on tests.

Often DNA won't but there can be what is referred to as "sticky sections" ie portions that have changed little over a long period of time.

That certainly could explain the Iberian Peninsula trace region in that case, thank you for letting me know about that  :)
I'm currently trying to figure out where the 24% Scandinavian DNA percentage has come from - could it be possible that it is all from the Viking era? A lot of my family are from Yorkshire in England, many coming from the same villages throughout hundreds of years - I'm wondering if the Viking DNA hasn't been 'polluted', so to speak, and hence that's why I carry such a large percentage.

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