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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Please could someone help me to decipher Cousin ?? Busby's given name?
« on: Friday 08 September 23 09:14 BST (UK) »The writer has two forms of "I" or "J" (which he regards as one letter). The form used in this name is always used in "Item" and sometimes in "I" (the word). The other form is used in most of the names which we would spell with a "J", but is also used for the word "I" in several instances. In short, I believe there is no significance in which form is used, and the cousin's name is definitely Joane.
David
PS Looking at the whole document, he uses the form in cousin Busby in several instances of John as well. More support for her being Joane.
Hi David,
Thank you very much for looking in to this. The name Joane is quite interesting.
Both Richard Busby (Great Tew) in his 1539 will and Thomas Pymme ('Isledon' 'Islington') in his 1549 will mention a Jusynyan Rogers (an unusual name).
Thomas leaves most things to his cousin Thomas Pymme als Fryer/Frere after his wife Elizabeth's death.
Thomas Pymme's wife Elizabeth was the widow of John Busby (Burford) and in his will he leaves her and then their son Richard jr property in Burford. Thomas Pymme bequeaths her son Richard Busby the property in Burford.
In John Busby's will of 1530 he makes Richard Busby of Great Tew and John Bassett overseers. I believe John 1530 and Richard 1539 may have been closely related (perhaps even brothers but this is not confirmed).
Thomas Pymme 1549 mentions an Edward Bassett in his will as being a brother. One of the witnesses of Richard Busby's 1539 will was William Freer/Frere/Fryer. Richard's wife was called Joane.
There are alot of coincidences of names between the wills and I believe they are all related somehow. If Richard's wife Joane and Thomas Pymme's cousin Joane are the same person perhaps this explains why Thomas Pymme and Richard Busby both mention a Justynyan Rogers (neither confirm a relationship), but John doesn't him. Maybe the Rogers connection is via a Pymmes/Frere connection. John Busby's wife Elizabeth was his 2nd wife, I know nothing of his first other than she is buried in St Katherine's Chapel, Burford.
The relationships I am hypothesising are just supposition at the moment and I need to investigate more. Unfortunately parish registers start too late to record anything about them.
I am going to Guildhall to investigate Justynyan Rogers for clues as he was a citizen grocer of London. He married Anne/Agnes Haywood in 1547 (sister of Sir Rowland Haywood c.1520-1593) but may have had a previous wife or mother belonging to a Pymme/Frere/Busby family. Richard Busby leaves him property in Oxford and Thomas Pymme leaves him property in Cornhill London so I don't think he is a distant relation.
Thank you for your help.
Best wishes,
Emma