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London and Middlesex / Re: HALLETT family in Peckham
« on: Tuesday 23 August 11 11:08 BST (UK)  »
Hi again,

I checked the death record you gave me, but I don't believe that is the correct one.

On the 1911 census Maria has listed herself as married and deserted whereas when she marries Mr Weeks she says she is a widow. Of course, having told fibs once it is quite possible that she lied again when she remarried. However, I think if George was dead she would have described herself as a widow. What do you think?

London and Middlesex / Re: HALLETT family in Peckham
« on: Tuesday 23 August 11 09:50 BST (UK)  »

Thank you, thank you, thank you!  I am sure that is the correct census record.

So they were telling porkies on the 1901 then. I never thought to look for Mr Weeks!

I really appreciate your help and I will check the death record you gave me also.

You are an absolute star.


London and Middlesex / HALLETT family in Peckham
« on: Tuesday 23 August 11 08:51 BST (UK)  »
I am researching the Hallett family who were living in Peckham around 1900.
I have a marriage certificate for William Hallett b.1894 who married Nellie Green in 1916. His father is shown as George Hallett deceased, occupation Carman.
I found the family on the 1911 census and William's mother was shown as married and deserted. Whether they found out that George was dead or not I do not know, but his mother Maria married the lodger William Weeks in 1914 and William Weeks is a witness at her son William's marriage in 1916.
I have a copy of the parish record for Maria Bradley and George Hallett in 1889 which took place at St James Church Edmonton Middlesex. At that time George's occupation was shown as a butcher.
I found George and Maria and their eldest son George in Peckham on the 1891 census. However, George and Maria's place of birth is just shown as England.
I cannot find any of the family on the 1901 census. I have no idea if George had already deserted his family by then, but I have looked for Maria b.1861 in Surrey and each of her 3 sons George b.1889, Wandsworth, Henry b.1892 and William b.1894 both born Camberwell and I cannot find any of them.
From George and Maria's marriage record I know that George's father was also called George and he is shown as deceased at the time of the wedding.
How can I go further back?
Hope someone can help me with this one

I am also researching the Tansley and Wade families in conjunction with the Burton line in Coggeshall.
Sarah Burton married Charles Wade in 1834.
I have both William Wade and William Tansley in the tree, both of whom were members of the Coggeshall gang.

Essex / Re: Robert Burton b.1837 Coggeshall
« on: Thursday 14 April 11 16:56 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for looking for me Jan.

I think that is unlikely to be the Isaac I am looking for because they all stayed in the Coggeshall area for around 100 years.  I have copied over the information though, because you never know!


Essex / Re: Robert Burton b.1837 Coggeshall
« on: Thursday 14 April 11 16:35 BST (UK)  »
Hi Valda,

I checked all the marriages in Coggeshall yesterday, going up to 1914 and didn't spot that marriage in 1895. Maybe they married in a registry office or another church but I will certainly try to follow that one up.

Thanks again for your help


Essex / Re: Robert Burton b.1837 Coggeshall
« on: Thursday 14 April 11 16:19 BST (UK)  »
I have just checked back on my notes which I made on a previous visit to the ERO and found this entry for Sarah Burton
 1859 17 Oct Baptism Coggeshall, Essex, UK recorded in original parish register held at Essex Records Office. Parents shown as Robert Burton and Elizabeth Newman, unmarried at time of baptism.
This would fit in with the marriage I found for Robert and Elizabeth which took place on 28th April 1860.
So we are still left with the mystery of Isaac and possibly Joseph Burton. I cannot find Isaac on the 1851 but he could be mistranscribed.


Essex / Re: Robert Burton b.1837 Coggeshall
« on: Thursday 14 April 11 16:05 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks to Valda and Jan,

You have both given me something to think about!

I am fairly certain that the surname on the microfiche copy of the register was Burton. There was the entry for the groom's name, the entry for the dad's name and the entry for the groom's signature and they all looked like Burton to me.
I cannot remember offhand whether the witness name was Joseph or just Jos or Jas. However, I am going back to Essex Records office next week so this time I will try to get a photocopy of the image so that I can study it in more detail.
I didn't realise that Robert had remarried so that will be a good line to follow. Again I will check when I go back to ERO next week.

Thank you so much for taking the time to help me.


Essex / Robert Burton b.1837 Coggeshall
« on: Thursday 14 April 11 12:10 BST (UK)  »
Hi everyone
I am hoping someone can help me solve a mystery with regard to Robert Burton b.1837 in Coggeshall.
My connection is through Robert who was the son of James and Maria Burton. He is with them on 1851 census and I also found a baptism for him in 1837 when I visited Essex Records Office.
I then found what I thought was him on subsequent census records, married to Elizabeth. Certainly he is shown as living in Robins Bridge Rd which is where a lot of my other Burtons lived.
However, the only marriage record I can find is for Robert Burton (B.1837) marrying Elizabeth Newman 28th April 1860 in Coggeshall. The problem with this record is that his father is recorded as Isaac Burton and the witnesses are Joseph Burton and Sarah Parmeter - none of whom are in my tree! (I did notice that a Sarah Parmeter is living a few doors from Robert and Elizabeth in the 1861 census. )
The Robert and Elizabeth that I found on the census had their first child in 1859 so it may be that there is another marriage out there somewhere. However I looked at the microfiche for Coggeshall marriages when I visited Essex Records yesterday and no others came up.
Also, I cannot find an Isaac Burton living in Coggeshall so not sure where he fits in.

If anyone can offer any further suggestions I would be most grateful


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