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Lanarkshire / Re: Bryson and Hamilton of Wishaw
« on: Sunday 30 May 21 12:02 BST (UK)  »
Hi Brenda,

I found it interesting to reread it too! 

Hope you are well, and to you too Billy,

Marlene aka Mo

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Help with a convict documents please
« on: Wednesday 12 May 21 03:44 BST (UK)  »
Thank you one and all your help is much appreciated. 

I see the spelling mistakes now - funny how the eye sees what it expects.  He was a schoolmaster later on so I read 'school'.  As Karen pointed out though, I think it is most likely, along with the 'obatain', a spelling mistake made by the recorder.  Thanks Karen

The 'some C' for some cousins sounds right too, thank you horselydown86 and for the Newry, Ireland information.  I've just found another record (UK prison record on Ancestry) that says under Native Place: Newry, Ireland.  (It also says he has an Uncle Wm Lee in Leeds Yorkshire.)

Also thanks shanreagh for the Demarara location - I'd been labouring under the assumption it was in the Bahamas area... ::)

Marlene

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Help with a convict documents please
« on: Tuesday 11 May 21 03:57 BST (UK)  »
Hoping for some help with Byron Young's convict records, please.  He arrived in Van Diemen's Land in August 1843 on the 'Cressy'.
His indent record has quite a bit of extra information.  I have been able to work out a lot of it but need some help for the crucial parts!

1st box is under the heading of 'Surgeon's Report' and says 'most indefatigable as a schoolmaster on Board - Patient perservering very successful'
2nd box 'Trade' has 'Clerk - at a merchantile house to Mr Moses Benjamin'
3rd box 'Native Place' has 'I was educated at New York & kept a school there - I then *  N___r_[?]'
4th box 'Remarks' has '20th regt 5 or 6 mos.  I volunteered from the 83rd Regt in which I was 6 mos.  Aunt Maria Young - - I So___[?]  *I went to demarara about 5 yrs ago to obtain a situation - I got with Mr Moses Benjamin the American Concul.'

Can anyone read what the missing words are in the Native Place box and the Remarks box?  The fact that he's done all those jobs and he's only listed as 23 years old I find of interest too.

I have also attached a part of his description list where it looks to me like his Native Place is 'Co of Down'.  Do others agree?

Thank you,
Marlene

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: DNA Ancestry question
« on: Tuesday 27 April 21 01:59 BST (UK)  »

Trace both women back afew generations and see ifyou.have any matches with their grandparents surnames or localities these can be tiny matches but it will confirm

Just wanted to agree that this method worked for me.  I had two brothers and their (combined) six sons as possible fathers.  It was a search of one of the brother's wife's maiden name that gave me the answer.  A very small percentage match to me from someone descended from the wife's sibling also shared a match to the person descended from the unknown father.  Therefore it had to be one of the two sons to this couple who was responsible.

I found the more you organise your matches into descendant groups the easier it is to make discoveries like that.  Use the colour-code buttons  ;D

Good luck!

 

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I'm not sure I can offer much as it sounds like you are doing a good job already.  I thought I'd have a go anyway. 

My experience with Ancestry DNA matches has thrown up some intriguing results, some cases I've cracked and others I haven't.  I've found the coloured buttons very useful to group matches into families.  Also the search function for names alone and with a birth location (country or parish) if it is a common name.  Organisation of your matches into groups I've found extremely useful and using/constructing associated family trees to see where each match fits into the family tree.

It is sometimes the very small percentage match that can pinpoint the shared ancestors too.  For example I had a mystery group who matched very strongly to my maternal paternal line.  The ones that had trees allowed me to isolate the probable NPE to an area and timeframe but the possible fathers where a group of cousins and their father's who were brothers.  It was only when I was searching DNA matches for those who had one of the ancestral names from this group that I was able to work out which brother's sons would have been the father and therefore the generational pairing it went back too.  This was because the tiny match only matched through one ancestral name, which was the maiden name of one brother's wife - Goacher.  For the tiny match who descended from the Goacher family to match to me and one of the mystery matches it meant the mystery match had to have Goacher ancestry.  Which showed me which brother and his wife were the ancestors.  As there were only two sons old enough to father a child at the time in question it narrowed it done again.  Known lifestyles of the two possible fathers made one (my 3x great grandfather) the most likely Daddy. 

I hope this example can offer you some help in working out how to solve your mystery.
Best of luck,
Marlene   

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Names help please
« on: Tuesday 20 April 21 03:26 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Shaun, spot on  :D

I found the marriage (1 Sep 1846) on the same day for Julia Burgess to Hugh Sunderland Barrett and Mary Burgess to James Bardon.  The marriages took place in Hobart Town at the Methodist Chapel, which is supporting evidence as the receiver of the letter, Jabez Best, was a Methodist.  The guy writing to Jabez, who is telling him the news about 'Hughe' was Abraham Field Barrett.  So I would think 'Hughe' would be a brother or other relation to him.  Both Abraham and Jabez where in Victoria (or NSW at that time), but Jabez had formerly lived in Tasmania, as had A.F. Barrett.

Thanks again  :)
Marlene

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Names help please
« on: Monday 19 April 21 03:13 BST (UK)  »
Can anyone figure out what this name is please?  I thought Nagle or Hughes but they don't fit the information given with the name.
The part in question says 'I received a letter from ? per Minerva he has a son in 9 mos [months] & 15 days his wifes sister who was married on the same day had a son 9 mos exactly her brother's wife also had a son in 11 mos they were all three within a month of each other'

As I think the letter was written from Tasmania (VDL) I searched the Tasmanian Names Index for marriages of Hughes in 1845 and 1846 (the letter is dated 9 July 1847) but none appeared with a women who's surname matched another entry of a bride the same day.  There were no Nagles.

Thanks, Marlene

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Sussex / Re: Elizabeth Best. A death date but no place, help please!
« on: Monday 12 April 21 04:24 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Bill.  Since seeing your message I have been researching Lillywhites' of Eton etc and came across John and Martha Lillywhite and their family. 

John is indeed an interesting case...  Do you know that his brother Peter Lillywhite (of Littlehampton, Sussex) was a master mariner and owned land and house/s in Littlehampton from at least 1820.  So he too made money from a very humble beginnings and I wonder if there is a connection there to John's wealth?  Elizabeth's son James Best was a sailor on the 'Endeavour' from Littlehampton and captured by the French in 1807 and spent about 7 years as PoW in Arras.  I have to ask, somewhat reluctantly, whether we should consider smuggling...

Cheers, Marlene   

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Sussex / Re: Elizabeth Best. A death date but no place, help please!
« on: Saturday 10 April 21 08:42 BST (UK)  »
Hello Bill,

Thank you and wow!  So much information in your post  :D

I will post-haste check that transcription at Find My Past.  If one of her Lillywhite brother's was at Eton it would explain why Elizabeth's son Philip moved there too.

Are you a relation?

Many, many thanks,
Marlene

PS I now have an image of the Bible information so will double check the date too

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