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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: German to English translation
« on: Thursday 24 January 19 23:55 GMT (UK)  »
To me - and I can't read german but have muddled through quite a few German records - it looks like the first column is the name, the second column is what we'd know as ditto, the third column is probably birth and baptism dates and the fourth column the father with his occupation before the name. 
So the top entry in the 4th column is Zimmerman Heinr[ich] Schlieckert.  I'm pretty sure Zimmerman is carpenter in German.
Sorry, but I have no idea on Harry Schmidt's father Louis Schmidt's occupation ::)
Hope this is of some help,
Marlene

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: German letter written in 1915
« on: Wednesday 23 January 19 01:32 GMT (UK)  »
Yes, I see it too Karen  ;D  The K from Klara is the same as the K from the other word.  I think it is Kruger.

This is intriguing too because my sister has had her DNA done and matches with a family in Wisconsin who have Kruegers in their lineage!  (They also have GREINERTs but I can't establish a connection...).

I have attached snips of the two words for comparison of the first letter.

One of my Robert Greiner's uncles - Karl Wilhelm Theodor Greiner - married a Krueger too. 

Hmm, need to do some more detective work...

Many thanks for your continued interest and help,
Marlene

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: German letter written in 1915
« on: Tuesday 22 January 19 08:32 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you so much Peonie for the translation. 

It certainly shows us how difficult life was then - in the USA, in Germany, and I know that Robert and his wife were having a hard time in Australia too.  Robert came to Australia to work as a glassblower but was soon put out of the job by machines - as had happened back in Gerresheim.  His wife Wilhelmine felt very isolated too.

The Neumann family stayed in Kenosha in the end and following them through the census shows just what a melting pot of nationalities the place was.   

I've wondered often how the world wars impacted on the family back in Germany.  Now I have a little insight into that, thank you.  (I found out today that Wilhelmine's brother Arnold Hartmann died in Belgium in October 1914).

I was so lucky to have my Granny and for so long too.  (My other grandparents died before I was born).  She was a lot of fun and I'm pretty sure responsible for my obsession with family history  ;)

Thanks Peonie also for the scharfes info  :)

Much appreciation to you both,
Cheers Marlene

PS Karen, can I swap you some summer heatwave for some frostiness, please?

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: German letter written in 1915
« on: Tuesday 22 January 19 00:17 GMT (UK)  »
Here is the rest of the letter.  Hopefully you kind Rchatters will have a go at it too.

Thank you  ;D
Marlene

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: German letter written in 1915
« on: Tuesday 22 January 19 00:12 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Karen and Peonie  :)  Names - Yay!

I've been working on this family, trying to see if Minnie was Robert Greiner's sister.  Found out yesterday that she wasn't  :'(   I found the death notice in the Kenosha Evening News of her sister, which I've attached.  Their maiden name was Junkel.  Perhaps Heinrich Junkel was a brother to them?  No idea how Klara fits in - does the squiggle on the end of her name translate into 'ss' or a 'z'?

Wish I could read German... unfortunately that skill wasn't passed on from either Mum's or Dad's side  :( 

Karen, yes, my Granny certainly did reach 108!  She could speak some german at 3 but then WW1 happened and it wasn't kept up. 

I will post the rest of the letter.  Hopefully it will shed some more light.  Really do appreciate your help  :D

Many thanks again,
Marlene

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / German letter written in 1915
« on: Monday 21 January 19 07:27 GMT (UK)  »
Hi  :)

Below is part of a letter written to my great grandfather from August Neumann (and wife Minna and children Otto and Ella).  They went from Germany to the USA in 1913, while my Great grandfather Robert Greiner and his family came to Australia in 1911.

Is there any Rchatters out there who could translate it for me please?  I'm hoping that the names mentioned in it - Junkel and Klara I think - might help me find out if they were relations or just friends.

I can post the rest of the letter if you want.

Cheers,
Marlene

PS The Neumann/Newman family settled in Kenosha, Wisconsin.

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Australia / Re: Michael DWYER and his sister?, Tasmania, 1828?
« on: Tuesday 18 December 18 02:19 GMT (UK)  »
Have just been looking at the Lysander list again.  Appears that the entire lot were bounty immigrants "through the agency of Mr John Marshall of London by Messrs Nicholas James & Co".

My Alice Maguire was only one of many unmarried Irish girls on the ship (at least 60 from a quick scan of the list) being sent out as 'house servant'.  There were also a lot of Irish family groups like yours.

I'm guessing that the recruiter went to Ireland and signed up the people there.  Afterwards (again guessing) a ship/ferry would've been used to send them all to Plymouth and board the Lysander.
Of course there's a good chance I could be totally wrong of  :-\

I wonder if researching the people who organised the bounty immigrants could answer some questions?

Cheers, Marlene

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Australia / Re: Michael DWYER and his sister?, Tasmania, 1828?
« on: Monday 17 December 18 11:55 GMT (UK)  »
Your welcome  :)

I found the Lysander shipping record on Ancestry.  Have you got it?  Names and ages of Michael and family and all from Tipperary.

Looked but couldn't find anything in Tasmania on Michael.

Cheers,
Marlene

PS my 3 x great grandmother came out on the Lysander in 1841 too.  17 years old from Ireland and by herself  .

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Australia / Re: Michael DWYER and his sister?, Tasmania, 1828?
« on: Sunday 16 December 18 06:42 GMT (UK)  »

Michael Dwyer, water carrier, assault case in 1848.  Says he's elderly and of Lonsdale Street, Melbourne.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/result?q=%22Michael+Dwyer%22&l-decade=184&l-state=Victoria&l-year=1848

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