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Offline mc8

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Re: Mystery picture found near site of Canadian plane crash in Wales...who is he
« Reply #36 on: Sunday 30 October 05 20:35 GMT (UK) »
I agree with mack, the fellow on far right looks like a great matchPrue
I'd agree with that
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Re: Mystery picture found near site of Canadian plane crash in Wales...who is he?
« Reply #37 on: Sunday 30 October 05 20:53 GMT (UK) »
It's great that you've all taken the time to help.

Further to previous postings, I've just checked another site and found some of the ranks held, not sure if this will help but someone might recognise something from the uniforms etc...

Hamel = PO
Burke = sgt
Villeneuve = sgt
Groulx = sgt
Allison = FL

I cant find Du Sablon at the moment.

I've posted the site below in case anyone else is searching etc.

http://www.wartimememories.co.uk/allied/canadianarmy/index.html

Caroline

Anges Weild - Annan - married William Blenkinsop - Annan
Jane Scott, Roxborough who married William Hope (children, Wilhelmina Amelia, Horatio Nelson Trafalga Hope!) 
James Blenkinsop (born Dumfries)
James Blenkinsop (born Lancashire)
Wilhelmina Blenkisop (born Surrey) married Arthur Price (Wales)
Henry Reginald Price (Brecon, South Wales)
Evans (Coelbren, Wales)

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Re: Mystery picture found near site of Canadian plane crash in Wales...who is he?
« Reply #38 on: Sunday 30 October 05 21:02 GMT (UK) »
found Du Sablon = sgt
Anges Weild - Annan - married William Blenkinsop - Annan
Jane Scott, Roxborough who married William Hope (children, Wilhelmina Amelia, Horatio Nelson Trafalga Hope!) 
James Blenkinsop (born Dumfries)
James Blenkinsop (born Lancashire)
Wilhelmina Blenkisop (born Surrey) married Arthur Price (Wales)
Henry Reginald Price (Brecon, South Wales)
Evans (Coelbren, Wales)

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Re: Mystery picture found near site of Canadian plane crash in Wales...who is he?
« Reply #39 on: Sunday 30 October 05 22:48 GMT (UK) »
Sorry I had to have a sleep,
       Grouix - Sgt gunner
       Du Sablon - Sgt gunner
       Burke - W.O. (that could be either warrant officer or wireless operator)/gunner
       Allison _ Sgt bomb aimer
       Hamel _ Pilot officer
        All from No 22 Sqdn O.T.U. (operational training unit) although I am not 100% sure what AN O.T.U. is, it may be a final training unit before the real stuff?
                                               Denn
Ford, Baines, Dixon, Platts, Peat, Proctor, Rotherforth, Dakin/Daykin, Sales, Beech, Hall, Parkin, Nightingale. ----- Harthill, Waleswood, Woodhouse-mill, Whitwell

South Yorkshire/Derbyshire/Nottinghamshire

Torremocha, Candog, Ramos, Reyes, Rodrigueus
-------Philippines --- Bohol

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Re: Mystery picture found near site of Canadian plane crash in Wales...who is he?
« Reply #40 on: Sunday 30 October 05 23:46 GMT (UK) »
Joseph Du Sablon is buried at Chester cemetary
     details are here
http://www.vac-acc.gc.ca/remembers/sub.cfm?source=collections/virtualmem/Detail&casualty=1526188
     I an looking further into this site
                                     Denn
Ford, Baines, Dixon, Platts, Peat, Proctor, Rotherforth, Dakin/Daykin, Sales, Beech, Hall, Parkin, Nightingale. ----- Harthill, Waleswood, Woodhouse-mill, Whitwell

South Yorkshire/Derbyshire/Nottinghamshire

Torremocha, Candog, Ramos, Reyes, Rodrigueus
-------Philippines --- Bohol

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Re: Mystery picture found near site of Canadian plane crash in Wales...who is he
« Reply #41 on: Monday 31 October 05 00:05 GMT (UK) »
A couple of ideas:

1.  The National Archives (UK) might have files relating to the crash.  The NA of Australia has files on air crashes both military and civilian, going back decades.

2.  What institution woudl have the service records of these fellows? Canadian Archives?  They might have photographs on their files.

Prue

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Re: Mystery picture found near site of Canadian plane crash in Wales...who is he?
« Reply #42 on: Monday 31 October 05 00:23 GMT (UK) »
Correction to the rank of William J Allison VAC gives him as Flt lt
All are buried at Blacon - Chester
                                            Denn
Ford, Baines, Dixon, Platts, Peat, Proctor, Rotherforth, Dakin/Daykin, Sales, Beech, Hall, Parkin, Nightingale. ----- Harthill, Waleswood, Woodhouse-mill, Whitwell

South Yorkshire/Derbyshire/Nottinghamshire

Torremocha, Candog, Ramos, Reyes, Rodrigueus
-------Philippines --- Bohol

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Re: Mystery picture found near site of Canadian plane crash in Wales...who is he?
« Reply #43 on: Monday 31 October 05 02:25 GMT (UK) »
Found this but email adress not valid.
Re: wellington bomber crash 1944 Wales
WW2 discussion forum
From: andrewsimmonds@msn.com
Remote Name: 195.92.168.172
Date: 04 Oct 2002
Time: 19:47:38


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mf509, 22 otu. all canadians. photo of crew in front of aircraft exists. full details and photos if you would like them

at the following site
http://www.macksites.com/_disc1/0000009e.htm
                               Denn
Ford, Baines, Dixon, Platts, Peat, Proctor, Rotherforth, Dakin/Daykin, Sales, Beech, Hall, Parkin, Nightingale. ----- Harthill, Waleswood, Woodhouse-mill, Whitwell

South Yorkshire/Derbyshire/Nottinghamshire

Torremocha, Candog, Ramos, Reyes, Rodrigueus
-------Philippines --- Bohol

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Re: Mystery picture found near site of Canadian plane crash in Wales...who is he?
« Reply #44 on: Monday 31 October 05 10:40 GMT (UK) »
Still trying,
       This one has got me. Maybe because having joined the R.A.F. as a young man, I realise that it is only fate that prevented a conflict that could have meant both me and my younger brother being in the same position as those youths.Which brings me to another point the photo is not neccesarily of one of the crew - if he had a relation in the force the chances are that it could be thier photo'
         Next point - it seems that although these young men gave thier life I don't find  record of any award. What I did find andfor future reference it is a very comprehensive list of RCAF awards, it gives full details of the carreers of the recipients.
http://www.airforce.ca/index2.php3?page=wwii
                                                   Denn
Ford, Baines, Dixon, Platts, Peat, Proctor, Rotherforth, Dakin/Daykin, Sales, Beech, Hall, Parkin, Nightingale. ----- Harthill, Waleswood, Woodhouse-mill, Whitwell

South Yorkshire/Derbyshire/Nottinghamshire

Torremocha, Candog, Ramos, Reyes, Rodrigueus
-------Philippines --- Bohol