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1851 Cross Siblings
« on: Wednesday 09 November 05 14:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

I'm looking for three Cross siblings all born in Frodesley,Shropshire, parents James and Elizabeth. Have nothing concrete with deaths or marriages but have a full history for a further brother. Thought I'd ask for a look-up based on d.o.b. and place of birth rather than put down a lot of supposition. Can say,however,that I've seen Frodesley spelled Tradgsley and Frazley later;

Thomas Cross b.1815
Mary Ann Cross b.1819
Eliza Cross b.1811

Many thanks.
Bowers,Cowcill,Cross,Foster,Manning,Matthews,Moody,Sale,Speakman,Wallsworth.

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Re: 1851 Cross Siblings
« Reply #1 on: Monday 21 November 05 18:40 GMT (UK) »
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Re: 1851 Cross Siblings
« Reply #2 on: Monday 21 November 05 21:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

The John Cross b.1810 should be the father of the others (together with wife Ann) and is the brother of those I posted for. Having said that I haven't come across the John b.1843 so his details would be great. Thanks for looking.

See you, Lee
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Re: 1851 Cross Siblings
« Reply #3 on: Monday 21 November 05 21:21 GMT (UK) »
1851 Uk census
HO107/1990
folio 92 page 2

address frodesley
shropshire

John cross head age 41 ag labourer b frodesley
ann wife age 39 b
john son 8 b frodesley (the 1843 one)
harriet dau age 6 born frosdesley
william son 4 b frosdesley
emma dau 2 b frodesley
hannah dau 10 months b frodesley

angi

there are other cross people in shropshire but the above names are the frodesley ones
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Re: 1851 Cross Siblings
« Reply #5 on: Monday 21 November 05 21:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

The Plealey one looks interesting - that's about 5 miles from Frodesley? The only other info I have would be Thomas's father and mother - James Cross b.1781 and Elizabeth b.1782 Frodesley but by '51 they'd be 70+.

Thanks for looking, see you, Lee.
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Re: 1851 Cross Siblings
« Reply #6 on: Monday 21 November 05 22:03 GMT (UK) »
hi

1851 census
HO107/1993 folio 569 page 42

Low brook street oswestry

Thomas cook head age 39 naturalist  :o b plealey shropshire
first time ive seen that as an occupation
mary wife 40 b llandudno
thomas son 16 carpenter and joiner b llandudno
john son 10 b llandudno
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Re: 1851 Cross Siblings
« Reply #7 on: Monday 05 December 05 21:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi Leeric,
I cannot find your three original ancestors from Frodesley, I did find these,
Frodesely records,
30/july/1809, John,s,of,           James,& Elizebath Cross, bap,
23/oct/1811, Eliza,d,of                 "            "             "        "
If you want a lookup, pre 1820 (excluding R/C) these records are not on my disc, please feel free,
(I cant read half of these answers, so you may already have your answer)
Best, regards,
Pete.
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Re: 1851 Cross Siblings
« Reply #8 on: Monday 01 February 16 00:04 GMT (UK) »
Thomas cook head age 39 naturalist  :o b plealey shropshire
first time ive seen that as an occupation

I appreciate this thread is over 10 years old, but as Thomas Cross, naturalist, is my 3x great grandfather I had to say something! Unfortunately, apart from this one census record and him being referred to as a "bird stuffer" on his sons marriage certificate (Thomas, my 2x great grandfather), this is all I know about him. I have not been able to trace him on the 1841 census, although I have his wife Mary & son.

There was another naturalist, born in Shrewsbury around the same time, the slightly better known Charles Darwin. I would love to find a connection, but the more I look, the less likely it becomes.