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Boyd's & Murray's of Hoddom/Ecclefechan
« on: Wednesday 07 January 04 02:20 GMT (UK) »
I am researching Thomas BOYD (born c.1823 in Ireland ) & Janet MURRAY (born c. 1829 - 1831 in Hoddam) their children were Hugh (born 1847 in Hoddam) Margaret (born 1850 in Hoddam) Female child of unknown name (born  march 1851 in Hoddam) Mary Ann (born 1853 in Hoddam).

Hugh died dec 1879 single.
Margaret married Andrew SCOTT may 1875 in Carlisle, Cumberland.
Mary Ann married John McDONALD 1871/2 in Hoddam (record not found)


I have not been able to find a marriage record for Thomas & Janet or a death record for Thomas .


Any help on this family would be appreciated.
Researching Boyd, Murray, Scott, Grierson, Thomson, Thompson

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Re:Boyd's & Murray's of Hoddom/Ecclefechan
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 08 February 04 06:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

You probably have this already but I will put it here in case you haven't.

1851 Census

Ecclefechan Village, Parish of Hoddam

Thomas Boyd Head of Household, Agricultural Labourer, aged 28 years, born in County Down, Ireland.

Janet, his wife aged 22 born Hoddam

Hugh son, born Hoddam 3 years.

Margaret born Hoddam 2 years.

Unnamed daughter (note: not baptised) born Hoddam aged 1 month.

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Re:Boyd's & Murray's of Hoddom/Ecclefechan
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 10 February 04 11:00 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Maggie,

Yes you are correct I already have the 1851 census info. Thanks for posting it anyway.

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Steve Boyd
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Re: Boyd's & Murray's of Hoddom/Ecclefechan
« Reply #3 on: Monday 12 July 04 23:42 BST (UK) »
I have checked my Murray lineage in Ecclefechan, and it does not fit. There were half a dozen Murray families there in the 19th century. Ecclefechan grew suddenly in the early 19th century by a mix of processes which brought people in from outside. This included squatters/gypsies/displaced people from other areas, a feature of Ecclefechan to this day, agricultural labourers and small farmers. My Murray ancestors moved there c1800 from nearby Cummertrees, as farmers or in related occupations. Murrays in Dumfriesshire are fairly common along the Solway shore from Ruthven to Annan, so you might be looking at a Murray lineage that moved into Ecclefechan from one of the southern neighbours.

One solution would be to contact Dumfries & Galloway Libraries for the monumental inscriptions from Hoddom Churchyard: I've transcribed my own Murray ancestors from the graveyard but started with the printed MIs.

The problem with marriage records could be accounted for either due to their being nonconformists - one of the small seceder churches, or that they moved out of Hoddom parish at some point. If you have any clues as to family occupation that might help.

If the 1841 Census is any help, I found two Janet Murrays that could fit, but this is scribbled notes taken from the microfilm while searching for my own tree:

Samuel Murray dealer in eggs 40, Agnes 18, Richard 12, James 14, Janet 11

John Murray, labourer on roads, 40 , Janet 38 (my notes unclear), John 20, Robert 15 and James 12 all cotton bleach field workers, Catherine 17, Janet 9, Margaret 5, Isabella 2.
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Re: Boyd's & Murray's of Hoddom/Ecclefechan
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 14 July 04 13:32 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Thanks for the reply. The second family you mentioned from the 1841 census looks like a candidate for mine. Thanks I will look into it.

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Steve Boyd
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Re: Boyd's & Murray's of Hoddom/Ecclefechan
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 31 December 17 07:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi Steve,

Are you still looking into Janet Murray Boyd? I'm descended from her sister Isabella. Their parents were John Murray from Ireland (county unknown) and Jean Evans from Castledawson, county Derry, Ireland. John was Catholic, Jean was Protestant.

My family tree and my DNA results are on Ancestry and Family Tree DNA. I have DNA matches with two other descendants of John Murray and Jean Evans.

Please reply to this post if you are still researching this subject. I'll be happy to exchange notes with you.

Regards,

Iain Layden

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Re: Boyd's & Murray's of Hoddom/Ecclefechan
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 31 December 17 13:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi Iain,

Yes I am still interested in Janet Murray Boyd & any info you may have on the Murray/Evans/Boyd families.

I haven't done any research for a while now but I am be keen to exchange notes.

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Steve Boyd
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Re: Boyd's & Murray's of Hoddom/Ecclefechan
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 31 December 17 14:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi Steve,

Thanks for the quick reply. I suggest that we find out what each of us already knows first. If you could give me an email address Ill send you my descendant charts for John Murray and for Jean Evans' parents.

Are you on Ancestry? I have an abridged tree there.

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