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William Baikie Scarth
« on: Tuesday 03 January 06 20:16 GMT (UK) »
I am looking for any info on William Baikie Scarth. He was born in Kirkwall, Orkney in 1834.

His father was John Scarth & mother was May/Mary? Linklatter.

William was in London in 1861 and Liverpool in 1884. I cannot locate him in either the 1871 or 1881 census in England and was wondering if some kind soul could check these censuses for Orkney for me to see if he had returned.

Many Thanks

Malcolm Mackenzie

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Re: William Baikie Scarth
« Reply #1 on: Friday 06 January 06 17:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi Malcolm

There is only one William Scarth*, age range 40-50, showing on the 1881 index who happens to be in Orkney and born there! Unfortunately he is single, age 40 and living with his father James and mother Eliza, i.e not yours.

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Re: William Baikie Scarth
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 07 January 06 12:37 GMT (UK) »
Many thanx for trying for me.
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Malcolm Mackenzie

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Re: William Baikie Scarth
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 07 January 07 15:13 GMT (UK) »
hi pal, wonder if you have this yet?

1841 census; main street, stromness

john...age 30...priunton & tailor
may...age 35

children

john baikie...age 9
william baikie...age 7
maria louttit...age 5
may linklater...age 2

looks like mother-in-law in house

christiana linklater...age 65

1851 census; victoria street, kirkwall

john...age 42...teacher of music & Singing & Tailor...born potugal (brit subj)
may...age 44...born evie, orkney
john...age 18...solicitors app...born kirkwall
william...age 16...app to clerk of supply...born kirkwall
maria...age 15...born stromness
may...age 12...born stromness
mary...age 9...born stromness


1861 census; victoria street, kirkwall

john...age 52...sailor 9 seader of manie...born (brit subj) portugal
may...age 58...born pauth of oure
marion...age 25...dressmaker...born stromness
mary S...age 19...bonnet maker...born stromness
john...grandson(son of mary s)...age 2...born kirkwall

you will find linklater's in the shetland board, dawn.


happy hunting

Joe
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Re: William Baikie Scarth
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 07 January 07 16:01 GMT (UK) »
Many thanx for the census information

Regards

Malcolm Mackenzie

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Re: William Baikie Scarth
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 07 January 07 17:07 GMT (UK) »
your welcome my friend, do you need anything else?

Joe
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Re: William Baikie Scarth
« Reply #6 on: Monday 03 March 08 05:47 GMT (UK) »
Dear Mr. Mackenzie:

The William Baikie Scarth to whom you refer was the son of John Stuart Scarth and May (not Mary) Linklater (pronounced Linklatter). May L. was known as 'the Scandinavian Lily'. His father John was at one time precentor of St. Magnus Cathedral in Kirkwall, and was born 'on the line of march' in Portugal c1809, with the British Peninsular army fighting Napoleon there. May L. may have been born in 1791.

William Baikie Scarth went to India where he served in the British army (or British East India Company army before the Mutiny/Indian war of independence in '57); this presumably c1855 or so. I did not know he was in London in 1861; I thought his service in India lasted til the 1870s. Perhaps he returned temporarily to London. He was reputedly married in India, but I have no information on his family life there. He was in Liverpool by 1875, because our records indicate that he brought both his parents May and John to live with him there, and that one of them was dead by 1875. He remarried in Liverpool, to two sisters successively (Elizabeth Ann and Sarah Beynon I think, from South Wales), and had perhaps 8 children, some of whom were sent to Chicago c1893. (One of them later became a Mrs. Stryker there, and had a son named Russell.) His two youngest children, Harold Linklater Scarth (b. 1892) and Ronald Stuart Scarth (b. 1902), came to Winnipeg, Canada in 1913 and 1920, respectively. Ronald as a youth wanted to go to sea, but his parents were grieved at the thought and he refrained from doing so.

William Baikie Scarth died in November 1918, aged 84, two weeks after retiring from his job as an estate manager in Liverpool.

He had a sonorous voice with a lovely Orcadian accent. He was  a lay reader in church and at one time lectured in Liverpool on life in Orkney, composing a short monograph called 'Life in the North'.

Speculation: Given his middle name, it seems plausible that his father's mother or his mother's mother might have been a Baikie. There was I believe a notable William Baikie at Kirkwall about that time (I think he built Tankerness House). Incidentally, another William Baikie I believe founded the first Scottish public library, the Kirkwall Bibliotheck, about 1653 (an ancestor?). (Please check Linklater's 'Orkney and Shetland' for this.)

Possible lead: Is there a list of precentors of St. Magnus? If so, might this be a clue to some ancestors of John Stuart Scarth and William Baikie Scarth?

Hope to post some more info. in the future.

Happy hunting,

Azurewood

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Re: William Baikie Scarth
« Reply #7 on: Monday 03 March 08 05:50 GMT (UK) »
Dear Mr. Mackenzie:

We have some photos of William Baikie Scarth, and samples of his handwriting. Maybe I can get these on the screen somehow (they're not in digital format just yet).

Best regards,

Azurewood

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Re: William Baikie Scarth
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 22 July 09 20:02 BST (UK) »
I cannot locate him in either the 1871 or 1881 census in England and was wondering if some kind soul could check these censuses for Orkney for me to see if he had returned.

I don't know about 1871 but in 1881 he is at 37 Roseberry Street, Toxteth Park, Lancashire, aged 46 and working as a book keeper.

The reason you'll have had problems finding him is that the census has mistranscribed him as "Searth".