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Re: White Family Sussex
« Reply #18 on: Monday 04 October 04 08:30 BST (UK) »
Hi once again Chris,
             I have just been informed that William & Sarah (nee Tolhurst) White had their children baptised either at All Saints or St Clements, as did most of all the White families, hope this helps.
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Re: White Family Sussex
« Reply #19 on: Monday 04 October 04 10:21 BST (UK) »
Hi Shari

Yes, that helps - but I am doing my one day at work today - so will look for you this evening when I get home

Hope that is ok

botp - I know means Both of this Parish
B means Banns, they were married after the calling of Banns
otsp - not sure; over to you little nell on this one

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Re: White Family Sussex
« Reply #20 on: Monday 04 October 04 10:47 BST (UK) »
Good morning all,

otsp means "of the same parish".

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Re: White Family Sussex
« Reply #21 on: Monday 04 October 04 11:59 BST (UK) »
Little Nell

dooohh - now why didnt I think of that

Thanks Nell

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Re: White Family Sussex
« Reply #22 on: Monday 04 October 04 20:05 BST (UK) »
Shari

Been looking through the All Saints & St Clement Baptisms for your Whites with the following results:

William (Sailor) & Rebecca - Non Found

Stephen (Sailor) & Margaret:
Ore - Margaret, 5 Jul 1827 (born 23 Jul 1824)
Ore - Sarah, 5 Jul 1827 (born 10 July 1826)
Ore - Stephen, 5 Jul 1827 (born 28 Dec 1822)
Ore - Ann, 6 Jul 1828 (father Stephen is now Labourer)
Ore - William, 6 Feb 1831

Robert (Fisherman) & Elizabeth
SC - Mary Ann, 4 May 1821
SC - Robert, 6 Sep 1822
SC - James, 20 Feb 1824

James & Elizabeth - Non found

George (Butcher) & Francis
SC - Frances, 8 Oct 1824
SC - Sarah, 3 Nov 1826 (father listed as Milkman)
SC - Mary, 3 Sep 1830 (milkman)

Hope that is agreeable and helps your research

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Re: White Family Sussex
« Reply #23 on: Monday 04 October 04 20:09 BST (UK) »
Shari

Continuing the search for 'White' females who married others

Sarah & Richard Selden (Grocer)
SC - Mary, 31 Dec 1813
SC - William, 28 Jan 1816 (Seldon)
SC - Stephen, 8 Mar 1818
SC - Mary Ann, 8 Apr 1821
SC - George, 22 Mar 1822
SC - James, 7 May 1824
SC - Thomas, 19 Jun 1829
SC - Charlotte, 20 Apr 1827 (Seldon)

Ann & John Boyce (Milkman)
OR - Ann, 13 Sep 1818
OR - John, 23 Jul 1820
OR - Sarah Frances, 4 Aug 1822
OR - Elizabeth, 6 Jun 1824

Barbara & Charles Baker (Labourer)
OR - Charles James, 5 Aug 1827
AS - William, 26 Aug 1829 (now at Guestling)
AS - George, 3 Aug 1831 (Guestling)
AS - Alfred, 30 Oct 1833 (Guestling)

Thats all I could find

Registers were
Ore - 1700 - 1837
All Saints - 1700 - 1851
St Clements - 1700 - 1869


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Re: White Family Sussex
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 05 October 04 07:46 BST (UK) »
Chris,
     Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU, what a great surprise to find all the info you have sent to me, you have made my day, I really appreciate all you have done, and you have more than helped.
      I did have a photo of  The Kings Head Inn at Ore, somehow I have misplaced it so won't know if it was the right building as I have been told there was more than one with the same name, thank you also for helping me with the abbreviations and thank you also to Nell,
      When you have some time can you please let me know when the Old St Helens Church was built, would love to know.
         Thank you agian
             Cheers
            Shari.

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Re: White Family Sussex
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 05 October 04 09:08 BST (UK) »
Shari

Have been going through my books to see what I could find out about the Old Church - this is the sum total of that research:

St Helens Old Church, Ore

When King Offa conquered the men of Hastings in 771, it is thought that he founded the church of St Helens at Ore as his favourite saint was St Helen, mother of the Roman Emperor Constantine.

This Old Church of St Helens, Ore, built of Hastings Sandstone in the 8th century, was replaced by the present church in 1868 because it was stated that “The whole interior is so damp and wretched that parishioners are prevented from attending”, and a vestry meeting of 1868 decided that “It is in a most unsatisfactory state of repair, the roof being in a bad condition, requiring immediate and thorough reparation, both as regards the main timbers and the retiling, amounting to entire reproofing. That the main walls are in places, so falling over, that if the roof were removed it would be necessary to rebuild it in parts”
It was also discovered that ground level outside the church at the north east was now three feet above the floor of the church, consequently a faculty was obtained to build a new church on a nearby site utilizing suitable material from the old one.  A ruined portion of the old St Helens still survives today together with some of the tombstones in the Old Churchyard.

It was also thought in 1868 that Architecturally there was little to preserve apart from the arches, windows and the Tower, the rest having already been modernized and spoilt – therefore it was proposed to remove stone that was re-useable, but leave the Old Church looking ‘Picturesque’

The surviving parts of the church suggest that it is of early Norman or Saxon origin – this can be clearly seen in the north wall of the nave where a small window of nine inches wide is seen, giving a probable date of 1150 or before; and although the church shows evidence of much alteration, it would appear that the tower is of late 12th or 13th century.

At the top of Elphinstone road is the Borough Cemetery, this was the original Ore Cemetery before they built the road cutting it off from the church and then extended it to form the Borough Cemetery.  Just above where the modern B&Q DIY store is situated on Winchelsea road is ‘Ore Cemetery’ – known as the ‘Ore Burial Ground’ because the parish of Ore was made responsible for burying the dead of the workhouse and to meet the increased demand for graves, a new cemetery was opened in Winchelsea Road in 1855.

In the 1851 Religious Census of the Country, it was stated that Ore Parish Church had 430 seats, of which 300 were free (i.e, not paid for by parishoners, so anyone could sit in them)

The churchyard contains the family vault of General Murray, conqueror of the Canada’s and builder of Beauport Park

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Re: White Family Sussex
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 06 October 04 03:23 BST (UK) »
Hi Chris,
         Thank you for the info on the St Helens Old Church, very interesting so sad to see it in such disrepair, must have been beautiful in it's day at least some of it is still standing if only  a part of it.
          Vandals have no respect for anything, but I just can't understand the vandalism on churches and historic buildings, and worse... people steal from churches...so sad.
              Thank You
                 Shari