Which one ...... ? if any!!

[liverpool annie]

My gggrandfather Thomas Avery married my gggrandmother in 1820 in Liverpool! - but we've never been able to find his birth or death!! ( though we have her information ) - I came across these snippets and I'm wondering if any of these are him ........... the convict ship also had battalions of the 46th and 56th regiments with them - maybe he could have been a soldier ....... !! could he have been back in Liverpool within 4 years if he had been a convict??

Convict Arrivals in New South Wales 1788 - 1842
1. Name THOMAS AVERY Date of arrival in NSW 30 Jan 1816 Ship OCEAN

http://www.blaxland.com/ozships/

Avery, Thomas, Mr
Essington
Sydney
1845 Jun 20
Port Fairy
http://www.blaxland.com/ozships/alpha/pass/A21.htm

1872 in Names in Government Gazettes, Victoria c1858–1900.
1. Name – Thomas Avery State Victoria Location Ballarat Year 1872 Subject Shareholders Richard Heales Gold Mining Co Page 1938

I'd appreciate any input !

Thanking you in advance ..... 

[trish251]

Hi Annie

The term for convicts was 7 years minimum (usually 7 14 or life) but they could get a pardon and/or some of them were on hulks in England for so long, by the time they got to Australia their term was almost up (although this mainly happened prior to 1800).

I'll look a little more (and someone else will no doubt find the answer) 

Trish

[trish251]

If you have a look at the Certificates of Freedom in NSW archives you will find
AVERY Thomas  Ocean 1816 29/0463 20 May 1829 4/4297 984 TL 391/1325
so I don't think this convict was back in Liverpool in 1820 - Sorry.

http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/asp/searchform.asp?id=19

[liverpool annie]

I've always wanted a convict - as you know!!  

I just thought I'd give these a go - 'cos I can't find anything else!!  

Thanks for your help - you know I appreciate it!

Annie  

I down ...... 2 to go!! 

[trish251]

This is some information from his "Ticket of Leave"
Last name: Avery
First name: Thomas
Ship: Ocean
Year: 1816
Native place: Bristol 1799
Trade or calling: Saddle harness
District: Camden
Ticket no.: 24/391
State Records shelf ref: 4/4060
State Records reel no: 890

http://svc007.bne009i.server-web.com/catalogue/onlinebook/gatewaysearch.ehtml

[trish251]

Sorry Annie

You should have come to Oz in 1970s - everyone was giving them away   

While you are searching around liverpool - if you come across a warehouseman called Alexander Falconer who died between 1846 & 1851 do let me know     He is mine - never made it to Australia - The wife and daughter came alone

Trish

[liverpool annie]

Oh Wow! that's unusual - it's more than likely the fellah that takes off!! 

I found this for the soldiers - think he could have changed his name to "Wells" 

Soldiers and Marines index details for: Wells AVERY

    
Last name:   AVERY
First name:   Wells
Rank:   Private
Regiment:   46th Regiment of Foot (South Devon)
Pay List/Muster Roll:   1815 Pay List
PRO Reel/Source:   3795


Annie

[trish251]

There are a few Thomas Averys died in Oz - Do you know his parent names?

Wells seems an unlikely nickname for a Thomas   

Trish

[liverpool annie]

There are a few Thomas Averys died in Oz - Do you know his parent names?

Wells seems an unlikely nickname for a Thomas   

Trish

No parents I'm afraid!! 

I kinda like Wells ...... though I hear what you're saying ...!!
When he married in 1820 - he married a widow aged 34 - family thinks he was only 20 !! - but I honestly think he was much older than that!! - that's why I thought he might be a soldier!

 

Is your Alexander a Scot ?