The Hessies in Ireland

[Berlin-Bob]

Hi scotmum,

thanks for that reminder.  It has been so long between my last look at IGI and finding the name Hessie Baxter, that I quite forgot to go back and look for her there ....

Now the bad news !   

The date looks plausible and Antrim could be right, but Hessie Baxter's mother wasn't a Hessie !! 

OK, this can happen, Hessie B's granddaughter Hessie Stevenson was childless, so another granddaughter Emily Stevenson named one of her daughters Hessie to keep up the line (my M-i-L).

So I shall make a note for future reference, but it doesn't look good.

I even checked all the other Hessie/Hessy/Hessey Baxters - none of them with a mother called Hessie !

Once again, many thanks for that tip.
Bob

[scotmum]

Ah well, never mind...one day you will find your 'Hessie'.

If nothing else, I now know that rather than being an unusual name (as I had first supposed), Hessie was indeed quite a popular name (I googled 'Hessie Ireland' and was shocked at the amount of times the name appears).

Best wishes for your quest (ps your website looks good).

[Berlin-Bob]

Thanks scotmum.

when I first started genealogy I also tried googling for Hessie. I got hundreds of answers, including a lady boxer in America !

when I now google "hessie baxter stevenson ireland" it seems that a lot of the hits are from my various contributions to RootsChat postings (which have nothing to do with Hessie), but where my profile info. is then quoted !

Who knows, maybe that will lead other Hessie-searchers to me (and to RootsChat  )

[Berlin-Bob]

He married Hessie Stevenson on 18th. May 1886 in Belfast (from birth certificate of their son, William John Coleman, 1897 in Scotland).

I would like to take this opportunity to say a big thank you to stevenson. 

He was in the Records Office recently looking for some of his Stevensons, and he took the time to search for mine, too  ......  And he discovered the wedding details of Warren Coleman and Hessie Stephenson,
....... who were married in 1896, not 1886 as originally thought.

07/05/1896  book 006 page 02 Belfast
married at Albertbridge Congrerational Knockbreda Belfast Co.Down by rev J Cregan

Warren Coleman Engineer
57 Convention Street
Bachelor
Father James Coleman Joiner (dead)

Hester Stevenson
51 Convention Street
Spinster
Father Joseph Stevenson  tailor (dead)

witnesses Thomas Johnston
                  Anna Johnston

... That fits in so much better with the birth of their first child in 1896 

... and he even found a Hessie in his own family 

             Welcome to the Hessie-Searchers    

and, thanks again,

Bob

[scotmum]

 ...good to hear things have moved on. Just goes to show...patience is indeed a virtue.

[Tees]

Quite pleased for you, Berlin-Bob!! And now you have a "relation" in Ireland.

[Berlin-Bob]

Since last posting here, I have been adding snippets of information here and there,
and recently a RootsChatter provided me with more information about John Stevenson, Well-Sinker,
but ...
despite all our efforts, we still haven't found any more about Hessie Stevenson/Baxter
and..
I've just realised that some of the dates I've been working from may be wrong. 

Many years ago I was given a transcription of the 1901 Scottish sentence with my Hessies...
(Stenson = Stevenson)

Coleman    Warren    Head          44?   Ireland    Metal Planer(?)
Coleman    Hessie    Wife          46    Ireland    
Stenson    Hessie    Step Daur   22    Ireland    Pickle Worker
Stenson    Emily    Step Daur   19    Ireland    Rope Worker
Stenson    John       Stepson       14    Ireland    Scholar
Coleman    Annie    Daughter    4       Govan, Scotland    
Coleman    William John    Son    2       Govan, Scotland    

Since then I have the census image, and some of the ages look very different.

In the 1911 census the ages are very clear to read:
Coleman    Warren    Head    54
Coleman    Hessie    Wife            48
Coleman    Annie    Daughter     610^*      Govan, Scotland    
Stevenson Emily    Step Daur   22    Ireland    Rope Worker

Emily married in 1911 and her age is given there as 23, which fits with the 1911 census age better,
but Hessie and Annies' ages seem way out.

How would you read the ages from the image ?


^* Updated: I am having a bad day today
after saying how clear the 1911 census is, I then transcribed the wrong entry 

[aghadowey]

From the above snippet I read Hessie (21), Emily (15) & John (12) but lines through their ages aren't helping.

I think however, the children's ages aren't dependable as John Stevenson was born 1881 1888- so should be 20 around 13 in 1901-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1888/02508/1930082.pdf

[Berlin-Bob]

Thanks.

The"worst offender" seems to be the mother, Hessie Stevenson/Coleman:
   46 in 1901 and 48 in 1911 !

I read her age in 1901 as 40 or perhaps a very wobbly 8 making it 48 - looking at other '8's on the page, he tends to make the bottom loop of the 8 smaller than the top one - any other opinions !