Edlin in Ickenham. Middlesex, London and Sussex

[behindthefrogs]

Thank you John I will message you.

David

[behindthefrogs]

Sir Peter Edlins CoA.  I have been doing a bit of research.

bordure nebuly sa.

bordure as expected border but means that the link to the main line holding the coat of arms is probably through a younger son.  There are other reasons but this seems the most likely.

nebuly - various pictures but basically a cloud shaped interface to the main shield rather that a straight line.

sa.  sable i.e. black

So I am back wanting to see the pedigree posted with the college of arms.

[suspiceone]

HI David, the Arms that I have for :
 EDLIN , Peter Henry, Esq., 64 Queensborough Terrace, Hyde Park, London, one of Her Majesty's Counsel, Recorder of Bridgewater, and Assistant Judge of the Middlesex Sessions.  Arms : Erm. a fesse vair, in chief two arrows saltirewise ppr. ,all within a bordure nebuly sa. Crest : A crescent or, there from rising a falcon ppr. belted and jested gold, each wing charged with a trefoil slipped vert.  Motto : Suspice.
reference: Burke's General Armory
I have put together all of the illustrations that have been" accredited " to the name Edlin/Edlyn/Edelin etc will put in the post today.
Kindest regards, John

[behindthefrogs]

Thank you John.  I have been trying to get a lead on the other CoA but I can't find anything relevant.  I am looking forward to seeing the blazon and any other details for that one.

David 
 

arms:quartered: 1and 4 divided diagonally gold over black; a crook ending in a trefoil, placed diagonally and counterchanged; 2 and 3 silver; a red diagonal band between in top , a black eagle's leg and in base, a black wing turned to the left.
crest: a gold lion issuing and turned to the left, crowned gold.

[suspiceone]

Thank you John.  I have been trying to get a lead on the other CoA but I can't find anything relevant.  I am looking forward to seeing the blazon and any other details for that one.

David 
 

arms:quartered: 1and 4 divided diagonally gold over black; a crook ending in a trefoil, placed diagonally and counterchanged; 2 and 3 silver; a red diagonal band between in top , a black eagle's leg and in base, a black wing turned to the left.
crest: a gold lion issuing and turned to the left, crowned gold.

[suspiceone]

Hi David, I have sent the material on Crests etc. Now I will delve into the files for Edlins in Leic. and Mddx. I think that I should list all that I have and email to you, Annetta and Heather. What do you think ?Kindest regards, John

[behindthefrogs]

I'll wait to see what you come up with on your listing John.  Mine will be much more difficult as it is all buried amongst the other Edlin details.

I have been looking deeper into the use of a "nebuly" border.

Firstly it is likely to be wavey rather one of the more stylised forms used on a shield.
Secondly it probably means a baseborn son.

If this is the case it seems surprising that a newly created knight would adopt a shield of this form.

[Suspice]

Hi David,
The meaning of nebuly that I came across meant : waved lines to represent clouds;as well as represents the sea or water.
I received from Annette a four page list of  a " National Burial report", do you have a copy? If not I will forward to you.
Kindest regards
John

[behindthefrogs]

Hi John,

That picture of nebuly is the one from my reference books and if you go on-line to sites like hereldica there are illustrations which actually extend to what I can only describe as interlocking trees, probably meant to be clouds.

It was the nebuly border which I was having trouble with and as I said I could not explain why a newly Knighted person would want that on their shield where there was an opportunity to have a cleaned up shield.

Yes please to the document from Annette.

David