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Offline martync

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Kirkdale Gaol records
« on: Tuesday 21 February 06 15:30 GMT (UK) »
Does anyone know if these records are still around anywhere. A relative was apparently quite a regular "visitor" and I've tried TNA and The Liverpool Record Office and they are not there apparently. Anyone now where the records are?
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Re: Kirkdale Gaol records
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 21 February 06 16:59 GMT (UK) »
I don't know whether it helps or not but I believe that prior to its closure in 1892 all records and remaining prisoners had been transferred to Walton Prison Liverpool.
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Re: Kirkdale Gaol records
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 21 February 06 17:52 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for that, maybe they are filed as part of Walton Jails records. It's certainly worth asking about. I'll post it on here if I find anything.
Collier - Leicestershire
Healy - Leicestershire, Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire, Dublin
Clay - Leicestershire, Northamptonshire
Swift - Leicestershire, Derbyshire
Walker - Isle of Man, Glasgow
Akins - Liverpool, Ireland
Bowers - Co. Down, Ireland & Liverpool

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Re: Kirkdale Gaol records
« Reply #3 on: Friday 24 February 06 17:21 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

I traced my great grandfathers records of his time spent in "Kirkdale house of correction"  in 1881 ,via Black sheep search, Ms Chambers 4, Quills, Letchworth,  Herts.

She looked at records in London and sent me copies of the Court calender etc  it only cost me under £10 for a great deal of her time,plus the copies of documents.

I hope this helps .
Keziah
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Re: Kirkdale Gaol records
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 30 August 06 11:37 BST (UK) »
I am very interested in the records of Kirkdale Gaol.   Did you find out where they are located please?
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Re: Kirkdale Gaol records
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 30 August 06 11:49 BST (UK) »
I'm sorry I have never found the location of these records. The Liverpool library / records office did not know where they were. I'd be very intrested as I understand an ancestor was a frequent if sort stay inmate, it seems he enjoyed a drink a bit too much. His army pension documents had Kirkdale Gaol as his retirement address!!
Collier - Leicestershire
Healy - Leicestershire, Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire, Dublin
Clay - Leicestershire, Northamptonshire
Swift - Leicestershire, Derbyshire
Walker - Isle of Man, Glasgow
Akins - Liverpool, Ireland
Bowers - Co. Down, Ireland & Liverpool

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Re: Kirkdale Gaol records
« Reply #6 on: Monday 18 September 06 14:42 BST (UK) »
Have you tried entering your relatives name on the A2A site if there are any entries theremay be info at the Lancashire Records office.

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Re: Kirkdale Gaol records
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 19 September 06 04:38 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the suggestion.  I have had lots of success re Kirkdale Gaol with A2A.  You need to enter in the name several times for the best result

 County Gaol Kirkdale
 House of Correction Kirkdale
 Kirkdale Gaol

etc. 

I found a lot of entries finally.

Laura

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Re: Kirkdale Gaol records
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 19 September 06 08:31 BST (UK) »
Thank you both for your suggestions I will have another look it would be interesting to find out a bit more about this "colourful" character. He must have been quite a good soldier because he made sergeant three times in his army career but unfortunately it would seem the booze seemed to be his downfall and he was busted down to private twice once at least for being drunk on parade and left the army to go, short term, to Kirkdale gaol, I suspect he was allowed to retire rather than get busted again. He lived just around the corner to the gaol and worked on the docks but according to family legend quite often spent the night at the gaol but that could have been 2 or 3 times and got built up or many times it would be interesting to find out.

All the best,
Martyn
Collier - Leicestershire
Healy - Leicestershire, Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire, Dublin
Clay - Leicestershire, Northamptonshire
Swift - Leicestershire, Derbyshire
Walker - Isle of Man, Glasgow
Akins - Liverpool, Ireland
Bowers - Co. Down, Ireland & Liverpool