« Reply #122 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 20:52 BST (UK) »
Wow, thanks for all that info - its great to find somebody interested in the same family as me once in a while! In answer to your questions:
William and Mary:
My mum made a note from the parish register in Kirtling Cambs of William Mott 26/7/1789 to James and Ann Mott. I don't have a copy but I think it may have listed Ann's maiden name as being Coote (something I will have to check for myself - maybe it says Coats). William died in Lidgate 2/12/1868 aged 79 so I think the 1841 is incorrect. In 1861 he was aged 70.
The James born 1836 is from the IGI but I think he married an Ann Steadman from Crayford Kent. He is in Lambeth in 1881, I couldnt find him in 1891 but his wife is a widow by 1901 in Hendon. They don't appear to have had any children.
I have that Abraham had 2 children with his first wife Ann Sharp. Joseph c1851 who died aged 13 15/6/1864 Lidgate and George c1853 who seems to have been raised by his grandparents Jonathan and Harriet Sharp.
Abraham and Charlotte had the following children in Lidgate:
Amelia Harriet (2 yrs) 17/10/1858, Samuel (my ancestor) 17/10/1858, Ann 1/9/1861, Elizth (2yrs) and Joseph 29/2/1867 and Alice 24/4/1870. Some time between 1871 and 1881 they moved to Fulham. Your reference to him being a Marine Store Dealer in 1860 seems unlikely because in 1861 he was still a shepherd in Suffolk. Abraham died 4/8/1889 Fulham aged 61
Elizabeth c1840 seems to have married John Marsh Mar 1866. In the 1871 census there is a mother-in-law Mary Marsh with them. I beleive this is really Mary Mott, Williams widow.
James and Ann Mott:
James Mott died in Lidgate 15/5/1839 aged 70 which puts his birth around 1769 which fits better with the baptism in Kirtling 16/9/1764 to William and Katherine and the marriage in Kirtling 18/11/1788 to Ann Coote (I could be wrong though). Also, the Kirtling children I have found William 1789, Samuel 1791 (you were right I mis-typed it before) and Martha 1800 all fit with a subsequent move to Lidgate and two futher children baptised 12/7/1811 Sophia and Robert. I didnt know about the other children so thanks for that - were they baptised in Kirtling?
I don't know anything more about Samuel and Elizabeth Pain. Somewhere I have a tree given to me by another researcher but at present I can't lay my hands on the details.
I'm not sure now where the Thomas birth in 1706 came from so until I have had a chance to decipher all my notes properly I am going to leave it there for now.
My ancestor Samuel Mott was born 17/10/1858 Lidgate and married Ada Jane Gibson in Chelsea 7/7/1878. He died in Poplar aged 80 on 16/2/1937.
Please keep in touch with anything you find regarding this Mott branch.
Regards
Lyla
Lyla
LONDON: Flewers/Fluers, Pullen, Leary, Griffiths, Wood, Mitchell. HERTS: Barker, Bates, Dickens, Hutchins, Slater, King, Kent, Overill, Peters. BEDS/BUCKS: Whitbread, Horley, Seabrook, Horn(e), Jenkins, Woodward. BERKS/HAMPS: Gibson, Tigg, Boames, Parker SUFFOLK: Mason, Mott, Suttle, Twitchett, Everard, Feveryar, Riches, Clarke, Harper, Potter, Brinkley. BRISTOL: Mitchell, Pullen. CLACKMANNANSHIRE/FIFE, Keir, Sym(e), Watson, GLASGOW/IRELAND: Collins, Brown, Paterson. IRELAND: Leary, Collins