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Re: mott/motte/motts
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 14 October 04 19:24 BST (UK) »
I have  a Benjamin Mott who married Sarah Luff on October 31, 1798 in Smarden, Kent. Sarah was the daughter of Samuel Luff and Sarah Parker. Do you have any information on this family?
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« Reply #10 on: Friday 15 October 04 11:23 BST (UK) »
Hi Ladybug,
Sorry to say I do not have that particular piece of info you gave me. That's not surprising, even though I have such a large collection of names there always will be some that slip through.
 What I do have is a Benjamin Mott wed Martha PYALL 07 Jan 1776 in Smarden. I suspect that they are one and the same Benjamin who wed twice.

Sorry I can't be of more help to you.
Fred
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Re: mott/motte/motts
« Reply #11 on: Friday 15 October 04 11:35 BST (UK) »
hi there,

these are the Motts that are on my hubby's father's side.

John Mott b. 1826 Essex
Sarah Eliza Jane b. 1828 Essex



Sarah              b. 29/12/1850 England
John                b.  7/8/1851 England
James             b. 12/10/1853  Australia
Jane Mott        b. 1857, Australia (hubby's great-grandmother)
Sarah John?    b.  24/11/1857 Australia
Lydia               b. 5/6/1860  Australia
Alexander       b. 30/5/1862 Australia
William            b. 13/3/1864 Australia




Legs 11
Ref. John & Sarah Eliza Jane of Essex. My records only show her name as Eliza Jane, so thanks for that. Their two children in England I knew of, and now thanks again to you I know that they emigrated to Australia.
My current holding of any MOTT (and variants) names in Australia is not very large at present. I possibly hold around 4-500 names so far, but I am always hopeful someone will help add to that number.
One query, if I may. You show a date for the first born, Sarah, of 29.12.1850 - my records show that her birth was registered 1850 March qtr 12.210 Rochford, and I know she was baptised 27 January 1850 in Southchurch.
Thanks again for the info.
Fred
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Re: mott/motte/motts
« Reply #12 on: Friday 15 October 04 11:38 BST (UK) »
Hello Fred,

The information I have is that John Mott died in 1948 aged 85, Susannah Mott died Feb 1937 age 74, Albert Mott died April 1944 age 56, Edith Mott married James Ridgway July 24th 1920 , they had two daughters Joyce (my mother) and Doris, both who have now died, Joyce married Gerald Phillips in 1946, Doris married Basil Buxton and lived in Mold, so John and Susannah are my g grandparents.  Edith Ridgway (Mott) died in Mold in March 1975 .

John W Mott married Martha Gould at St Pauls church Portwood in 1900

Sorry I have no other information on the rest of the family but as I find any if you want I will let you know.


There is a family grave for Susannah at Stockport cemetery


Thank you for the information you have given me.

Jackie

Hi Jackie,
Well I guess we have helped each other on this, because you have added som info to my files as well.
Thanks for that.
Fred
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Re: mott/motte/motts
« Reply #13 on: Friday 15 October 04 11:49 BST (UK) »
Thanks tradelin,

I thought afterwards that they may have been Christening dates, I got their dates off of LDS IGI. I am not 100% sure if they were births or christenings.

glad I could help you. I don't know much about Jane though as she had well and truly died before I came onto the scene.

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Re: mott/motte/motts
« Reply #14 on: Friday 15 October 04 15:04 BST (UK) »
Hi Fred,

I have quite a lot of Motts in my family :)

My 5x greatgrandfather was;

John Mott  b.circa 1751 in Essex, married Mary Walden in 1779 in W.Hanningfield Essex,buried W.Hanningfield 21 June 1826.

The children were;

John Mott  Bap.W.Hanningfield 25 July 1779

Sarah Mott Bap.W.Hanningfield 27 May 1781

Isaac Mott  Bap.W.Hanningfield 8 Feb 1784,Bur.3 March 1852 W.Hanningfield

Mary Mott  Bap.W.Hanningfield 30 Sept 1787

Thomas Mott (My 4xGGrandfather) Bap.W.Hanningfield 28 March 1790,married 29 May 1813 in Downham Essex to Sarah Holson,buried 5 Jan 1864 W.Hanningfield.

James Mott  Bap.W.Hanningfield July 1792,Bur.21 Jan 1827 W.Hanningfield

William Mott  Bap.7 Dec 1794 W.Hanningfield,Bur.1 Dec 1872 W.Hanningfield


Thomas Mott and Sarah Holson had the following children;

James Mott  Bap.Downham Essex 28 Aug 1813

Susan Mott  Bn.circa 1816

Thomas Mott (My 3xGGrandfather) Bn.circa 1819,married ?Mary Willis (No marriage record found),buried Ramsden Essex 31 Dec 1877

Louisa Mott   Bap.Stock Essex 2 April 1821

Sarah Ann Mott  Bap.Ramsden Essex 13 April 1825

Emma Matilda Mott  Bap.Stock Essex 7 June 1829

William Henry Mott  Bap.Ramsden Essex 21 Mar 1832


Thomas Mott and Mary Willis had the following children;

Isabella Willis Mott  Bap.Stock Essex 28 Jan 1845

Frederick Mott  Bap.8 Oct 1846 Ramsden Essex

Ellen Mott  Bap.8 Oct 1848 Ramsden Essex,Bur.31 Mar 1850 Ramsden

Reginald Mott (my 2xggrandfather) Bap.20 May 1856 Ramsden Essex,married Emma Gentry in Ramsden 27 Sept 1870,died 1935/36

Charles Mott  Bap.20 May 1856 Ramsden Essex

Emily Mott  Bap.20 May 1856 Ramsden Essex

Rachel Mott  Bap.15 June 1856 Ramsden Essex

Mary Ann Mott  Bap.23 Nov 1856 Ramsden Essex


Things get a little confusing from here on in ??? so I will leave it there for now.

I would be interested to hear if you are aware of this family and I would be happy to provide you with further details(if I have them) :)

Best wishes,Mick ;)





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Re: mott/motte/motts
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 17 October 04 23:02 BST (UK) »
Hi Fred,

Just had a thought a story told to me when I was young by my gran about a brother (i think hers, but maybe her father's) who went to live in New York and became mayor, maybe a fairy tale  but do you have any records of Motts family in New York and from Stockport.

To add to your records James Mott married Mary Jane Jamieson June 7 1902 at St Thomas Church Stockport,

Martha Mott died 15th March 1905 age 22.

Are you related to the Motts?

Jackie

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« Reply #16 on: Friday 22 October 04 19:17 BST (UK) »
Hi, Mickie m,
Many thanks for your message. Yes I was aware of the family of John Mott & Mary Walden. I have been through your list of issue, etc., and agree with most of what you have written.
I do have some additions/comments for you to consider, as follows.
1) John Mott married Mary Walden on 27 February 1779
2) Mary (Walden) Mott died 10 February 1841 aged 89 years.
3) Isaac Mott 1784, I have his burial as 04 April (not 03 March) ??
    Isaac possibly wed a 'Sarah', unless it was his sister in the 1851 census ??
4) James 1792, was baptised June 1792,(not July) ??
5) William 1794 wed Susan Holson (Holsen) in 1819. Susan was "of Downham". They had issue :-
                     Susan          bapt 29 May 1820    Ramsden
                 Frederick          bapt 02 July 1828          ""
               Sarah Ann          bapt 07 June 1833         ""
Their 1841 census address was "Turnly All Lane " ??
Wife Susan (Holson/Holsen) died 14 February 1885 "Aged 89 yrs"
Sarah Ann went on to marry Robert SPARROW - she was 18, he was 23.
Their marriage Reg is 1850 December qtr 12.77 Chelmsford.
 
6) Thomas 1790 was a Shoemaker according to the census returns.
    He died 16 March 1845, "Aged 55 yrs", and is buried in All Saints, Writtle
    The first born of Thomas & Sarah (Holson/Holsen) you show as 'James' ?
    My records show him named Thomas James ?
7) I also show several other children born to Thomas & Sarah which are not in your list. I don't claim that my list is 100% accurate, only 'almost' !!
                a)        I have a 2nd Susan born 1820
                b)                      Frederick born 1828
                c)                       Sarah Ann born 1833
                d)                      Edward Mark born 1842
Other than that I agree with the list of issue. (I bet that's a relief!!)

8) Thomas 1819 and Mary Willis - Thomas was a Shoemaker.
     Mary (Willis) Mott died somewhere between 1855 and 1861 - the birth  of  their last child and the 1861 census, where Thomas was "A Widower".
 Of their issue, you show the last five children as all being baptised in various months of 1856. and I give you their respective birth years:-
                a) Reginald      1849 March qtr 12.10 Billericay
                b) Rachel         1850 Dec qtr 12.7           "  "
                c) Charles        1852 March qtr 4a.113   " "
                d) Emily            1853 Dec qtr 4a.104      " "
                e) Mary Ann     1856 Dec qtr 4a.104       " "
It appears that Thomas & Mary decided for some reason to have all the last five done in the same year. Maybe the church was offering "do one, get one free " ????

That's it for this lot. Essex was the first County that I investigated for MOTT's, etc. That was the main area for almost every Mott/Motte, with the largest concentration (and probably still is?).
I'd be interested in any further info you may care to impart on your ancestors, and indeed on any up to date ones as well.
Again many thanks for allowing me the information on the above. I will be "off air" for about the next three weeks (got a lot of DIY to do for my daughter !!). Chat to you when I get back.
Best wishes
Fred
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Re: mott/motte/motts
« Reply #17 on: Friday 22 October 04 19:21 BST (UK) »
Hello Fred

You may be able to help me with members of my family i am currently trying to find out about Charles William Mott he married Annie Louisa Ridges i belive this took place some time between 1901 and  1907 between the Census and the birth of my Grandfather Arthur Charles Mott. I suspect he was born about 1880-1885. In 1907 they were living in Whitehorse Road in Croydon.

Any help you can offer will be gratefully received

Douglas Mott

 
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