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Re: Nathaniel Hocking
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 28 February 06 09:18 GMT (UK) »
Right, I was talking about John and his wife.

1851
HO107/1905 610 31
St Enoder, Cornwall
address: 'Hobs'

John Hocking, head, 43, Stone Cutter, b. Ladock
Christian, wife, 43, b. Newlyn
William, son, 16, b. St Enoder
Catherine, dau, 12, scholar, b. do.
Emma, dau, 9, scholar, b. do.
John, son, 7, scholar, b. do.
Selina, dau, 4, b. do.
Edward, son, 1, b. do.

Tanja  :)

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Re: Nathaniel Hocking
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 28 February 06 09:35 GMT (UK) »
Right, I was talking about John and his wife.

1851
HO107/1905 610 31
St Enoder, Cornwall
address: 'Hobs'

John Hocking, head, 43, Stone Cutter, b. Ladock
Christian, wife, 43, b. Newlyn
William, son, 16, b. St Enoder
Catherine, dau, 12, scholar, b. do.
Emma, dau, 9, scholar, b. do.
John, son, 7, scholar, b. do.
Selina, dau, 4, b. do.
Edward, son, 1, b. do.

Tanja  :)

Tanja,
This is so odd!
There is too much perfectly right for
it to just be a coincidence, yet something
is amok. 
They live in the right place (St Enoder) and John is still a
stone cutter, but he and his wife, who are both 30 in 1841
 have aged 13 years in only ten years
(they are both now listed as 43). And as you said, the wife
has changed from Catherine to Christian, but she is still the
same age as her husband.
William, who was 7 in 1841 is still about the
right age at 16. Also Catherine (age 2 in 1841) is the right age
in '51 at 12.  Little Philippa (5) and Amy (2m) are missing,
but they could have died. How sad!!!
The wife could be the same or not. Now I need to find
a birth certificate for William Hocking, son of John.
I love the way your new census info about '51 has John's
place of birth! Yay! And if Catherine and Christian are one in
the same, her birthplace is also valid!
Thank you!!! Thank you!!!
Corney
Seeking:

emigration records for
Nathaniel Hocking (b. 1856 St Austell, St. Stephens)
from Cornwall to US about 1880-1883

Seeking records involving
Birth info and/or census data revealing
Parents and siblings of
Jane Howard Trevena of St Mewan b. about 1834


Birth info and/or
Parents and siblings of
Kitty Courtis (aka Catherine or Christian) of Newlyn
b. about 1811
d. at age 71 in 1881

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Re: Nathaniel Hocking
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 28 February 06 09:39 GMT (UK) »
Ages often vary through census returns anyway but you may not know that they were rounded (up or down? I can never remember!) on the 1841 census so this seems to fit very well indeed.

Tanja  :)

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Re: Nathaniel Hocking
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 28 February 06 09:43 GMT (UK) »
Wonder if this is them in 1861?

St Enoder, Cornwall
RG9/1544 24 9
'Hobs'

Kitty Hocking, head, wid, 51, Farmer of 12 acres empl 1 man, b. Newlyn
Selina, dau, 14, Daughter at home, b. St Enoder
Edward, son, 11, scholar, b. do.

Tanja  :)
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Re: Nathaniel Hocking
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 28 February 06 09:49 GMT (UK) »
My brain is back! St Austell seems the right registration district. I see the place Nathaniel is in 1871 is actually St Stephens in Brannel  :D  :D   

Tanja  :)
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Re: Nathaniel Hocking
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 28 February 06 09:57 GMT (UK) »
Wonder if this is them in 1861?

St Enoder, Cornwall
RG9/1544 24 9
'Hobs'

Kitty Hocking, head, wid, 51, Farmer of 12 acres empl 1 man, b. Newlyn
Selina, dau, 14, Daughter at home, b. St Enoder
Edward, son, 11, scholar, b. do.

Tanja  :)

Tanja,
YES! It has to be them because the location is right along with
 Selina and Edward and the widow Hocking all at the right ages.  Plus
Kitty's birth place!
Selina isn't that common of a name, is it? It must be them!
Yippeee!!!! This is just amazing! Thank you!!!

Corny
Seeking:

emigration records for
Nathaniel Hocking (b. 1856 St Austell, St. Stephens)
from Cornwall to US about 1880-1883

Seeking records involving
Birth info and/or census data revealing
Parents and siblings of
Jane Howard Trevena of St Mewan b. about 1834


Birth info and/or
Parents and siblings of
Kitty Courtis (aka Catherine or Christian) of Newlyn
b. about 1811
d. at age 71 in 1881

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Re: Nathaniel Hocking
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 28 February 06 10:07 GMT (UK) »
Have you already had a look at www.familysearch.org ?

Have found very interesting things there, such as  8)

Marriage 14 JAN 1855 Saint Stephen In Brannel, Cornwall

WILLIAM HOCKING (Father  JOHN HOCKING)
Spouse  JANE HOWARD TREVENA   
Husband Age at Marriage:  20   
Wife Age at Marriage:  21   
 
(Extracted marriage record)

Tanja  :)
     


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Re: Nathaniel Hocking
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 28 February 06 10:15 GMT (UK) »
There's also an extracted marriage for John and Kitty, but I don't want to spoil the fun  :P - Come back to me if you can't find it.

I don't know how familiar you are with familysearch but there are 2 sorts of records on there: extracted records and submitted records. Those who are submitted by LDS members (and I see there are some for your family) are sometimes less reliable than the extracted records in as far as you don't know how serious the searcher who has submitted the record is.

The extracted records are copies from the church registers.

Tanja  :)
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Re: Nathaniel Hocking
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 28 February 06 10:38 GMT (UK) »
My brain is back! St Austell seems the right registration district. I see the place Nathaniel is in 1871 is actually St Stephens in Brannel  :D  :D   

Tanja  :)
Tanja,

You are AMAZING!!!!! Holey Schnikees!!!
YOU FOUND THE MAIDEN NAME OF NATHANIEL'S MOM!!!!!
Woo hoo!!!!! I had originally been looking for "Ann,"
who came from an incorrect transcription of the 1861 census from a website called 1837.com. Later this evening I found another
trascript of the census at FreeCEN, which listed her
(in the same census) as Jane.
Now that I look at the photo copy I have of the 1861 census,
it does look more like Jane than Ann, and I note now that they
also wrongly transcribed Kate as "Kali."
I hadn't thought to go back and recheck marriage records
between Jane and William, as I was busy chasing John the
stonecutter and getting wonderful updates from you!
This is just wonderful!
I feel like I've been in a time machine!!!
My brain is growing foggy, as it's past 2am here, but I thank you most sincerely
for a most exciting ride through history!
I am off to sleep, but will be dreaming of Cornwall and
all these new ancestors!
 
Best Regards and Enormous Thanks!
Corny
Seeking:

emigration records for
Nathaniel Hocking (b. 1856 St Austell, St. Stephens)
from Cornwall to US about 1880-1883

Seeking records involving
Birth info and/or census data revealing
Parents and siblings of
Jane Howard Trevena of St Mewan b. about 1834


Birth info and/or
Parents and siblings of
Kitty Courtis (aka Catherine or Christian) of Newlyn
b. about 1811
d. at age 71 in 1881