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Offline Corny

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Nathaniel Hocking
« on: Tuesday 28 February 06 04:10 GMT (UK) »
Modified Feb. 28 2006

I am seeking emigration records for
Nathaniel Hocking b. 1856 St Stephens, Cornwall 
He emigrated from Cornwall to the US some time
before his US marriage in 1883 at age 27 in Michigan

He is found living with his folks and siblings in Cornwall 
Census 1861
Census 1871
But in Census 1881 (at age 25) he is missing from the family.

I have a US marriage record that puts him in Michigan in 1983,
so it seems he left Cornwall sometimes between
1871 and 1883.

His family in Cornwall (as found in 1861 census)
Father: William Hocking  age 27 b. St Enoder
Mother: Jane age 26 b. St. Mewan
siblings (including Nathaniel)
John age 5 b. St Stephens
Nathaniel age 4 b. St Stephens
William age 2 b. St Stephens
Kate age 0 b. St Stephens

In addition to birth info about Nathaniel,
I am hoping to locate a marriage record for
William Hocking of St. Enoder
and Jane of St. Mewan
in about 1855.
[The incredible researcher Tati resolved this last request:
Nathaniel's mom = Jane Howard Trevena]


Thank you for any help in my search!


Seeking:

emigration records for
Nathaniel Hocking (b. 1856 St Austell, St. Stephens)
from Cornwall to US about 1880-1883

Seeking records involving
Birth info and/or census data revealing
Parents and siblings of
Jane Howard Trevena of St Mewan b. about 1834


Birth info and/or
Parents and siblings of
Kitty Courtis (aka Catherine or Christian) of Newlyn
b. about 1811
d. at age 71 in 1881

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Re: Nathaniel Hocking
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 28 February 06 07:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi, here's the 1871 census with a few more kids..

1871 census
St Stephens - District 10 -  Sch. 065
 
 
William HOCKING Head 36 Carpenter St Enoder
Jane " " Wife 38 St Ewe 
John " " Son 15  St Ewe
Nathaniel " " Son 14   
Kate " " Dau 10 
Edward " " Son 8   
Tom " " Son 6   
Harry " " Son 4   
jane Ann " " Dau 2   
Fred " " Son 5 months


All born St. Stephens unless stated otherwise

Sussex:
Lishers of Sompting, Cunninghams of Houghton, Hammonds of Angmering, Humphrey, Hambleton, Ayling, Pope, Gent

London: Le Franc, Watson, Read

Cornwall: Phillips of St. Ives, Chappells of Penwith
Ireland: O'Connors of Co. Clare

Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


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Re: Nathaniel Hocking
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 28 February 06 07:38 GMT (UK) »
Hi Corny,

Welcome to rootschat  8)

I can see the following birth:

December quarter 1856
Nathaniel Hocking
St Austell Registration District
Volume 5c page 167

Any good?

Tanja  :)
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Desire and hunger is the fire I breathe

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Re: Nathaniel Hocking
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 28 February 06 08:47 GMT (UK) »
Dear Gougy,

Thank you for the 1871 Census records
for Nathaniel Hocking and family!
I was not able to access this family in the 1871
Census using the engines I have access to, so was
thrilled to get your message!
It was so kind of you to look up my family member!

This has been a wonderful evening for
info as after reading your message, I  located an 1841 census
with Nathaniel's father William as a boy aged 7, in St. Enoder,
with his parents John Hocking (age 30, stone cutter) and
mother Catherine, plus siblings Elizabeth (11),
Nathaniel [my Nathaniel's uncle] (9), Phillipa (5),
Catherine (2), Amy (2m).

What a difference a day makes!
Thank you again,
Corny

Seeking:

emigration records for
Nathaniel Hocking (b. 1856 St Austell, St. Stephens)
from Cornwall to US about 1880-1883

Seeking records involving
Birth info and/or census data revealing
Parents and siblings of
Jane Howard Trevena of St Mewan b. about 1834


Birth info and/or
Parents and siblings of
Kitty Courtis (aka Catherine or Christian) of Newlyn
b. about 1811
d. at age 71 in 1881

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Re: Nathaniel Hocking
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 28 February 06 08:52 GMT (UK) »
I can see them in 1851 too (mother is suddenly named Christian!), with 4 under age 10. Would you like the details?
HO107/1905 610 31

Tanja  :)

 
"My dear, I think the English pronounce it 'appiness"

Desire and hunger is the fire I breathe

Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Nathaniel Hocking
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 28 February 06 08:56 GMT (UK) »
Tanja,

Thank you so much for the info!
The date (1856) and name (Nathaniel Hocking) are right on,
although the district of  Nathaniel's birth shown
in the 1861 and 71 census is St. Stephens.
Is there a St. Austell district within St. Stephens?

I am new at navigating UK records, and need to gain
familiarity with the record system and geography
of Cornwall as well!

How would I go about ordering birth records for the document
you speak of? I feel sure it would yeild a maiden name for
the mother, who is listed as Ann in the 1861 Census, but as
 Jane in the 1871 and 1881 Census. There is a daughter called Jane Ann, so I think that is likely the mom's name, too, as her
district of birth and age remains the same in the different Census data, so surely same person!

Thank you again for your help, and I await any info you might
have about how I can order the records you spoke of!

Friendly Regards,
Corny
Seeking:

emigration records for
Nathaniel Hocking (b. 1856 St Austell, St. Stephens)
from Cornwall to US about 1880-1883

Seeking records involving
Birth info and/or census data revealing
Parents and siblings of
Jane Howard Trevena of St Mewan b. about 1834


Birth info and/or
Parents and siblings of
Kitty Courtis (aka Catherine or Christian) of Newlyn
b. about 1811
d. at age 71 in 1881

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Re: Nathaniel Hocking
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 28 February 06 09:07 GMT (UK) »
I'm not familiar with Cornwall geography but Genuki tells me this:

St. Austell registration district
Created 1st July 1837.
Sub-districts : Fowey; Grampound; Mevagissey; St. Austell.
GRO volumes : IX (1837-51); 5c (1852-1930).
Creed, Fowey, Gorran, Grampound, Mevagissey, Roche, St. Austell, St. Blazey, St. Dennis, St. Ewe, St. Mewan, St. Michael Carhays, St. Sampson, St. Stephen in Brannel, Tywardreath.


So all we need is find out if St Stephen in Brannel is the same as St Stephens  :P

(Edit: problem solved)
"My dear, I think the English pronounce it 'appiness"

Desire and hunger is the fire I breathe

Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Nathaniel Hocking
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 28 February 06 09:09 GMT (UK) »
... as for certs, you can order them online at the GRO:
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

Tanja  :)
"My dear, I think the English pronounce it 'appiness"

Desire and hunger is the fire I breathe

Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Nathaniel Hocking
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 28 February 06 09:12 GMT (UK) »
I can see them in 1851 too (mother is suddenly named Christian!), with 4 under age 10. Would you like the details?
HO107/1905 610 31
Tanja  :)

Hi Again Tanja,
As Nathaniel wasn't born until 1856,
I assume you're talking about the1851 census for
the family of Nathaniel's father William,
 including Williams father John, the stone cutter?
(as found in the 1841 census)
I would LOVE more info on these folks!
Thank you again!
Corny
Seeking:

emigration records for
Nathaniel Hocking (b. 1856 St Austell, St. Stephens)
from Cornwall to US about 1880-1883

Seeking records involving
Birth info and/or census data revealing
Parents and siblings of
Jane Howard Trevena of St Mewan b. about 1834


Birth info and/or
Parents and siblings of
Kitty Courtis (aka Catherine or Christian) of Newlyn
b. about 1811
d. at age 71 in 1881