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Ockbrook, Holloway in Derbyshire? Help!
« on: Thursday 02 March 06 22:09 GMT (UK) »
I am hoping for some level-headed advice please ;D  I am very excited as this looks like a brickwall is falling for my NEVILL family, but I am confused.....

I have just discovered some potential family (NEVILLs) on the IGI, but their places of birth/marriage are given as:

'Ockbrook, Holloway, London'
(this is from a user-submitted form, batch 6020750)

So, very excited ;) I googled this - but am coming up with places in Derbyshire - Ockbrook & Holloway being different places in Derbyshire :o

I have also found some of the same family on the Ancestry OneWorldTree, & again the place is given as Ockbrook, Holloway, Middlesex

So - in short
1) are Ockbrook & Holloway close enough to be linked like this?
2) has anyone seen this confusion before where folks decide it must be Holloway in London because that's the only Holloway there is!!


cheers
a very confused Rosemary ???

ps I will be chasing actual sightings in Parish Records separately, I just want to establish whether I should be looking in Derbyshire or London first!
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Essex: Allison/Alliston, Claydon, Lambert, Pettican, Willsher, Mead, Butcher
Hampshire: Boddy, Webb, Yatman
London & adjacent: Boddy, Cormack, Nevill, Shephard, Westerman, Palmer
Norfolk: Surflen
Suffolk: Adams, Birt, Pooley, Smythe (Stanton & Badingham), Ward, Wham
Sussex: Grinsted, Pooley, Tillstone, Batcock, Bartlett, Peters
Warwickshire: Shephard

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Re: Ockbrook, Holloway in Derbyshire? Help!
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 02 March 06 22:56 GMT (UK) »
 I looked up Ockbrook on multimap and old maps from Curiousfox and the only one I could find was near Derby. There is a Holloway about 15-20 miles n of Derby. I would be looking there first if I was you. Could you phone or write to the Derbyshire Co council before you head off in person?
Your guess about someone thinking the only Holloway is in London could be correct (bits of London are  often entered as Middlesex).
I had a hassle with one of mine born Islington — turned out to be part of Liverpool!
Can you give us the names and dates for a lookup — I can do 1837 online.
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Re: Ockbrook, Holloway in Derbyshire? Help!
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 02 March 06 23:03 GMT (UK) »
Rian

thanks for the info & advice - yes, I need to plan any visit to Derbyshire with care - I hadn't thought of phoning first though, so thanks for that ;)

Also, thanks for the look up offer  ;D
.... but the folks I am interested in were born in the 1770s & then their children in the early 1800s.... so 1837 won't be much help!!!

For your interest, they are:

Fa John Nevill
Mo Elizabeth ?Tring
children:
John Benjamin Nevill b1770
David Nevill b1772
Jonathan Nevill b1774 (my ancestor)

cheers
Rosemary
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Essex: Allison/Alliston, Claydon, Lambert, Pettican, Willsher, Mead, Butcher
Hampshire: Boddy, Webb, Yatman
London & adjacent: Boddy, Cormack, Nevill, Shephard, Westerman, Palmer
Norfolk: Surflen
Suffolk: Adams, Birt, Pooley, Smythe (Stanton & Badingham), Ward, Wham
Sussex: Grinsted, Pooley, Tillstone, Batcock, Bartlett, Peters
Warwickshire: Shephard

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Re: Ockbrook, Holloway in Derbyshire? Help!
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 02 March 06 23:14 GMT (UK) »
JOHN PETER NEVIL 
Birth:  29 APR 1757   
Christening:  30 APR 1757   United Bretherns Congregation, Ockbrook, Derby, Death:  30 SEP 1757   
Father:  JOHN NEVIL 
Mother:  SUSANNAH     

JOHN BENJAMIN NEVIL 
Birth:  22 JUN 1770   
Christening:  24 JUN 1770   United Bretherns Congregation, Ockbrook, Derby,
Father:  JOHN NEVIL 
Mother:  ELIZABETH 

JONATHAN NEVIL 
Birth:  08 MAY 1774   
Christening:  10 MAY 1774   United Bretherns Congregation, Ockbrook, Derby,
Father:  JOHN NEVIL 
Mother:  ELIZABETH 

DAVID NEVIL 
Birth:  08 MAY 1774   
Christening:  10 MAY 1774   United Bretherns Congregation, Ockbrook, Derby,
Father:  JOHN NEVIL 
Mother:  ELIZABETH 

ANN NEVIL 
Birth:  18 NOV 1776   
Christening:  24 NOV 1776   United Bretherns Congregation, Ockbrook, Derby,
Father:  JOHN NEVIL 
Mother:  ELIZABETH 

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Valda



 
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Re: Ockbrook, Holloway in Derbyshire? Help!
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 02 March 06 23:17 GMT (UK) »
Valda
Wow thanks v much ;D ;D ;D
.... and where on earth did you find them?
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Essex: Allison/Alliston, Claydon, Lambert, Pettican, Willsher, Mead, Butcher
Hampshire: Boddy, Webb, Yatman
London & adjacent: Boddy, Cormack, Nevill, Shephard, Westerman, Palmer
Norfolk: Surflen
Suffolk: Adams, Birt, Pooley, Smythe (Stanton & Badingham), Ward, Wham
Sussex: Grinsted, Pooley, Tillstone, Batcock, Bartlett, Peters
Warwickshire: Shephard

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Re: Ockbrook, Holloway in Derbyshire? Help!
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 02 March 06 23:27 GMT (UK) »
On the IGI but not submitted by an individual (if you check that batch number just for Nevils they are all over the place) but from the actual indexed church records.

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Re: Ockbrook, Holloway in Derbyshire? Help!
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 02 March 06 23:48 GMT (UK) »
Hi Valda — how do you do a search for them?
Sounds like it could b a useful thing to know!
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Re: Ockbrook, Holloway in Derbyshire? Help!
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 02 March 06 23:48 GMT (UK) »
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On the IGI but not submitted by an individual [....] but from the actual indexed church records.

OK - thanks... I will go and practice my searching on IGI ;)

I am very grateful Valda, as this definitely confirms them in Ockbrook Derbyshire - and gets around the Holloway/London/Middlesex confusion 8)

cheers
Rosemary
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Essex: Allison/Alliston, Claydon, Lambert, Pettican, Willsher, Mead, Butcher
Hampshire: Boddy, Webb, Yatman
London & adjacent: Boddy, Cormack, Nevill, Shephard, Westerman, Palmer
Norfolk: Surflen
Suffolk: Adams, Birt, Pooley, Smythe (Stanton & Badingham), Ward, Wham
Sussex: Grinsted, Pooley, Tillstone, Batcock, Bartlett, Peters
Warwickshire: Shephard

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Re: Ockbrook, Holloway in Derbyshire? Help!
« Reply #8 on: Friday 03 March 06 06:45 GMT (UK) »
Rhian

once you have found one, and Rosemary gave me names and dates and you have opened up the individual record, you click on the batch number in the bottom left hand corner. Put in the surname you want and if you want to narrow it down parent or parents first names and then search on just those church records contain in that 'batch' for any possible siblings.

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Valda
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