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mcgilvray - Calder(Cawdor) and Greenock
« on: Sunday 05 March 06 11:09 GMT (UK) »
I'm seeking Elizabeth McGilvray (whatever spelling) b 1827 Calder, Invernessshire - I've since discovered that Calder is really Cawdor and is considered to be in Nairn and not Inverness.  According to the death cert her parents are Donald Mcgilvray, farmer, and Elizabeth McPherson but I'm not sure this is correct.
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Re: mcgilvray - Calder(Cawdor) and Greenock
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 01 July 07 19:40 BST (UK) »
hi pal,

i womder if this is yours?

donald mcgilvray(1771 nairn) married mcpherson(1771 nairn) in 1800.

mcgilvray children from this marriage:

ann-1801
william-12/2/1810
john-6/10/1817
elspet-29/8/1819
anne-6/8/1822
alexander-13/11/1824

all children born ardclach

1841 census- airdrie, ardclach, nairn

donald- age 60- labourer
elspat- age 50
margaret-23
donald-15
alexander-13
robert mcgregor- aged 9 months

it seems that they are at hillground, urray, ross & cromarty for the 1851 census but need someone to check.


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Re: mcgilvray - Calder(Cawdor) and Greenock
« Reply #2 on: Monday 02 July 07 12:22 BST (UK) »
Thanks Joe

That certainly gives me something to work with.  Unfortunately, Elizabeth's age is confusing from the various documents - census etc - but I think she would have been born around 1827.  I don't think I've checked the 1841 1851 census records and I'll do that now.  Where did you get the list of children from - Eliz would have been born after the youngest child shown there.

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Re: mcgilvray - Calder(Cawdor) and Greenock
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 07 August 07 23:59 BST (UK) »
hi pal,

this may not be your donald mcgilvary after all... he was born raised and died in ardclach..

1851 census- airdrie, ardclach

donald...age 80...former ag lab...born ardlach
margaret fraser...dau...age 31...born ardlach
john fraser...son-in-law...age 38...ag lab
elspet fraser...grand-daughter...age 1
margaret fraser...grand-daughter...age 1 month
robert mcgregor...grandson...age 9
elspet duncan...visitor...age 51...born botriphnie, banff

1861 margaret fraser daughter of donald takes over the running of "airdrie"


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Re: mcgilvray - Calder(Cawdor) and Greenock
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 08 August 07 00:20 BST (UK) »
Hi Joe

The only Elizabeth McGilivray that I can find  (in the wole of Scotland) on the 1841 that fits is already away from home:

Daviot, Invernessshire
District 95 ED 5 Page 3

David Hood, farmer
(others)
Elizabeth McGilivray, 14, Farm servant, born county

I'll see if I can find any parents. She might well have married by 1851.

Gadget

Added - I don't think this is her. Just checked and there's a baptism DAviot in 1827 - parents Farquhar and Ann
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Re: mcgilvray - Calder(Cawdor) and Greenock
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 08 August 07 00:31 BST (UK) »
Here's a possible family in Cawder on the 1841:

Blairmore
District 122 ED 2 Page 1

Donald, 35-39, ag lab
Catherine, 35-39
Donald (could be 7 or 8 -faint print)
Ann, 6
John, 3

All born Nairn

Could it be a second marriage :-\
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Re: mcgilvray - Calder(Cawdor) and Greenock
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 08 August 07 00:46 BST (UK) »
Thanks all for your thoughts on this one.  You've given me some ideas to pursue.   Elizabeth married Alexander McKirdy in 1854 in Greenock.
McLaren, McKirdy, Gorman, Blyth, Paterson, Galloway, Morgan, Tait, McPherson, Anderson, Wylie, Mcgillvray, McAlees, Montague/McTague, Singleton, Campbell, McNaught, Robertson, Ferguson, Docherty, McGlinchy, McGarry, O'Hara, McMillan, Little, Blair, Smith, Batley, Rodger, McIntyre, Black, Miller, Small, Spurling, ?Golden, Brown, Flannaghan, Lawn, MCallum, McLean, Paton, Dickie, McAllister, Auld, Glen, Biggart, Orr, Thomson, Neil, Walker, Weir, Mcvichie, Henderson, Fernie, Spence, Ker

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Re: mcgilvray - Calder(Cawdor) and Greenock
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 08 August 07 00:48 BST (UK) »
Oh Sheena - if only they'd waited another year, you'd have had her parents' names  :(

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Re: mcgilvray - Calder(Cawdor) and Greenock
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 08 August 07 00:53 BST (UK) »
Yes, but.... After Alexander's death, Elizabeth remarried.  Parents confirmed as Donald Mcgilvray, farmer, and Elizabeth McPherson.
McLaren, McKirdy, Gorman, Blyth, Paterson, Galloway, Morgan, Tait, McPherson, Anderson, Wylie, Mcgillvray, McAlees, Montague/McTague, Singleton, Campbell, McNaught, Robertson, Ferguson, Docherty, McGlinchy, McGarry, O'Hara, McMillan, Little, Blair, Smith, Batley, Rodger, McIntyre, Black, Miller, Small, Spurling, ?Golden, Brown, Flannaghan, Lawn, MCallum, McLean, Paton, Dickie, McAllister, Auld, Glen, Biggart, Orr, Thomson, Neil, Walker, Weir, Mcvichie, Henderson, Fernie, Spence, Ker