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Pond: Blandford
« on: Monday 06 March 06 08:57 GMT (UK) »
I'm looking into the family of Samuel Pond, b. 1857 in Blandford.

All I know about him is that he married Sarah Emma Burt in Southbroom St James, Wiltshire in 1877, and there was one child that I can identify.

I believe Sam was an ironmonger, and it may have been him (or his dad?) Mayor of Blandford in the 1850s.

Does anyone have any info about Sam's parents/siblings, please

Paul
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Re: Pond: Blandford
« Reply #1 on: Monday 06 March 06 09:14 GMT (UK) »
This could be your family in 1861:-

William Pond, 51, Ironmonger, Coppersmith etc, Born Blandford
Charlotte Pond, 43, Ironmongers Wife, Born Dorchester
Charlotte S Pond, 16, Scholar, Born Blandford
Mary S Pond, 14, Scholar, Born Blandford
William E Pond, 11, Scholar, Born Blandford
Samuel Pond, 4, Scholar, Born Blandford

Living at Market Place, Blandford Forum

RG9/1333  Folio 52  Page 7
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Re: Pond: Blandford
« Reply #2 on: Monday 06 March 06 09:21 GMT (UK) »
Golly, that looks like the real deal. Charlotte is a name still in use.

Thank you indeed...I'm still trying to find my way around the UK BDM scene.

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Paul
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Re: Pond: Blandford
« Reply #3 on: Monday 06 March 06 09:54 GMT (UK) »
Here's William and Charlotte in 1841 with what appears to be his parents!

1841 Census of Blandford
HO107/294/2 folio 6 page 7
"Market Place"
William Pond, 64, plumber
Ann Pond, 64
Edward Pond, 35, plumber
William Pond, 25, tinman
Charlotte Pond, 20

Charles Pond, 15, plumber
Lucy Pond, 15

All recorded as born in Dorset

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Surnames include: FRANCIS in Glamorgan / LANWORN in Monmouth / BLACKMAN, RUSSELL in Sussex / KEARSEY, BARLTROP in Essex / TOOKEY in Leicestershire / LASHMORE in London and Kent / GOODWIN, PASQUE, ATTOE, FISK, QUINTON, RUFFLES, CULLINGFORD and others in Suffolk / MAYOSS anywhere anytime! / GILMORE in Belfast

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Re: Pond: Blandford
« Reply #4 on: Monday 06 March 06 10:07 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the info.

It looks like William married Charlotte Self (?1842)...but is there any way I can be certain that this Charlotte is his wife, not his sister?

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Paul
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Re: Pond: Blandford
« Reply #5 on: Monday 06 March 06 10:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi Paul

I guess you can't be sure at this stage - it mainly depends on where you got the 1842 marriage reference from.  Best bet would be to plough through (a copy of) the parish registers.

Incidentally, looking at the 1861 snapshot posted by SnowGoose, I wonder whether Charlotte S Pond was actually Charlotte L Pond.  There's the birth registration for a Charlotte Louisa Pond in Blandford in the March quarter of 1845 (vol 8 page 21) followed by a marriage registration, also in Blandford, for the same name in the December quarter of 1870 (vol 5a page 568).

In any event, this looks like your Samuel's birth registration:
Samuel POND Dec qtr 1856 Blandford vol 5a page 241

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Re: Pond: Blandford
« Reply #6 on: Monday 06 March 06 10:35 GMT (UK) »
I think Samuel would have struggled to be mayor in 1857 and born in 1856! I guess it may be his uncle though. There is a Samuel Pond (brazier, 75, b Weymouth) living in Blandford by himself in 1851.

Nearby (HO107/1853/236/8) William is still alive:
William Pond, 75, plumber employing 2 men, b Weymouth
Ann, 74, wife, b Weymouth
Edward, 49, son, plumber, b Weymouth
Charles, 29, son, plumber, b Blandford
Lucy, 27, dau, b Blandford
Elizabeth Bartlett, 10, niece, b Ireland

The fact that William and Samuel were both b Weymouth suggests they may be brothers.
I noticed that a William Pond was mayor in 1842, so perhaps his brother followed him.

You may find this link useful:
http://www.dorset-opc.com/

(Niece may just mean a younger relation; I have seen it used for a granddaughter before).
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Re: Pond: Blandford
« Reply #7 on: Monday 06 March 06 20:31 GMT (UK) »
Thanks to the last 2 posters...a great help indeed!

Put the mayoral thing down to a vivid imagination. I maybe imagined it was his paw or uncle.

I'm now trying to trace those people forward - maybe they married?

But let me bore you to death with a story. One of the downstream Ponds came to Australia (obviously), and married a lady named Brunton. Her brother also married a Pond - but were they related? The second Ponds came from Cornwall, with not much "leakage" into other counties. Family reunions in Oz must have been quite confusing...

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Paul
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Re: Pond: Blandford
« Reply #8 on: Monday 06 March 06 21:30 GMT (UK) »
When you say you want to trace the tree forward, do you literally mean every branch?  Is there one branch you already know about?
Blandford seems stuffed with Ponds in every census, so a complete search would take quite a while!
For instance, you say you know one of Samuel's children (presumably from the 1881 census on IGI).
His family were there in 1891:
RG12/1634/50/23
Samuel, 34, ironmonger
Sarah, 41  b Devizes
Frank, 12
Percy, 8
Burt, 6
Donald, 5
Lucy, 1    all rest b Blandford

and 1901:
RG13/1972/31/5
Samuel, 44, ironmonger and agricultural engineer
Sarah Emma, 47
Lucy Charlotte, 10
Edith Laura, 9
Dorothy Gertrude, 7
+ a governess; they were moving up in the world!

But lots of earlier members of the family are there as well.
For instance Charles (bc1821), a plumber, is there in 1861/71/81 with his wife Mary Hunt Pond  (b1821) and children Lydia (1853) Emma (1855) and Lucy (1856).
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