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Re: My Suffolk Surname interests (come inside !)
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 20 December 15 09:37 GMT (UK) »
Hi James18

All I know about the Eighteen family is a Jane Eighteen married John Doomesday in Hadleigh in 1667, and that is it. I know nothing about her parentage.
Bloomfield, Knights, Whitmore, Warner (Suffolk)
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Mattocks, Newick, Nutter, (Kent)
Mattocks (Staffs)

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« Reply #19 on: Thursday 29 June 17 20:11 BST (UK) »
Hello There,
I came across a very probable Tydeman link while looking into my family tree at the Library, on Ancestry. co.uk:

One of my 4x Great Grandad's was baptised with the name of Robert Butcher, in Debenham, Suffolk, on the 24th of Feb 1810. His birth date was put down as the 5th of Feb 1810. His Mother's name was listed as Susan Butcher. But the Father's name was not given.
However, I found something on the National Archives via another family tree that has Robert Butcher in it. It's reference on the National Archives is: FB47/G8/72.
The record stated that William Tydeman was a Farmer of Debenham, and was:
"Bound in 100, to indemnify the parish from the maintenance of a male child born to Susan Butcher". It appears to be dated 26 Oct 1810.
I had a look, and it seems this William Tydeman was born sometime in 1793, in Suffolk. Most of the trees I have seen, seem to state he was the child of Jonathan Tydeman (1764 -1833) and Elizabeth Robinson (1767 - 1855). I cannot seem to find a date of marriage for these two.
William Tydeman married Margaret Leggett on the 27th of June 1815,in Gislingham, Suffolk.
In the 1841 Census, William is in Stoneham, Suffolk, with Margaret and family. His Mother Elizabeth (nee Robinson) also appears to be in the household.
In the 1851 Census, he appears to be a Gardener. His date of birth has been transcribed on Family Search as 1800. But looking on the original Image on Find My Past, he is 57 years old, and place of birth reads: "Little Stonham" The old Elizabeth Tydeman is also there again, down as aged 84. Her place of birth has been put down as what looks like: "Brockford, Suffolk".
On the 1861 Census, William is a Master Gardener. William died I think in Stonham Parva, in early 1871, before the Census was done. 
I wander if anyone else on here has these Tydeman's in their family tree?

Thank you.
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Re: My Suffolk Surname interests (come inside !)
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 29 June 17 20:36 BST (UK) »
Hi

I can't see any connections with my Tydeman's unless there is a connection further back via Jonathan Tydeman (1764 -1833). Most of mine are from Earl Stonham so not to far from Debenham.
Bloomfield, Knights, Whitmore, Warner (Suffolk)
Hamlin (London, Yorkshire, Scotland, Suffolk)
Mattocks, Newick, Nutter, (Kent)
Mattocks (Staffs)

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« Reply #21 on: Thursday 29 June 17 20:44 BST (UK) »
Hi

I can't see any connections with my Tydeman's unless there is a connection further back via Jonathan Tydeman (1764 -1833). Most of mine are from Earl Stonham so not to far from Debenham.

Thank you.  :)

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« Reply #22 on: Friday 30 June 17 12:06 BST (UK) »
Hi

I can't see any connections with my Tydeman's unless there is a connection further back via Jonathan Tydeman (1764 -1833). Most of mine are from Earl Stonham so not to far from Debenham.

Hello There,
I looked on Ancestry, and it appears that Jonathan Tydeman's Father was William Tydeman. He is down as being born in 1728, in Earl Stonham. William died on the 29th of October 1802, in Stonham Parva. He married a Mary. The "Historical Person Search", on Ancestry has this Mary's surname down as Tydeman. According to Ancestry, this William's parents were Martin Tydeman, born 1700 in Earl Stonham, and Ann Groom. I managed to have a look at your very good family tree on the Tydeman's, and I found Martin, and Ann Groom on there.
I will post a link to the "Historical Person Search", where I found William Tydeman born 1728 on Ancestry (hopefully it will work).  :) ;)

Thank you.

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/genealogy/records/william-tydeman_120001610


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« Reply #23 on: Friday 30 June 17 12:14 BST (UK) »
Thanks, so we do have a link after all via Martin Tydeman (born 1700) !
Bloomfield, Knights, Whitmore, Warner (Suffolk)
Hamlin (London, Yorkshire, Scotland, Suffolk)
Mattocks, Newick, Nutter, (Kent)
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« Reply #24 on: Friday 30 June 17 12:18 BST (UK) »
Thanks, so we do have a link after all via Martin Tydeman (born 1700) !

Yes, it appears so. ;D ;). Martin was Jonathan's Grandfather, and one of my 8x Great Grandfather's, haha!

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« Reply #25 on: Sunday 10 September 17 13:08 BST (UK) »
It looks like we might have a connection somewhere Sally as I have quite a few Tydeman's in my tree, some going back further than 1854 !

If you want to have a look around my family tree, this is the link:

www.alan137.co.uk/family

It is through looking at your very good family tree, that my suspicions about two of my 7x Great Grandparents were confirmed: William Tydeman (1727 - 1802) married Mary Tydeman (1731 - 1785) on the 5th of August 1756, in Earl Stonham, Suffolk.
My suspicions were that they were actually cousins. I found out that William Tydeman was a son of Martin Tydeman (1700-1778), and Ann Groom (born 1696 in East Bergholt). Mary Tydeman was a Daughter of Edmund Tydeman (1698 - 1792), and Elizabeth Clark (Abt. 1705 - 1775). Mary Tydeman, and William Tydeman, both shared the same grandparents: Edmund Tydeman (1671 - 1727) and Ann Morton (Abt. 1670 - 1727).
My suspicions about William and Mary were confirmed when I looked at the will of Mary's father, Edmund, and a passage from that on your tree:

"his son-in-law WILLIAM TYDEMAN the husband of his deceased daughter Mary and his nephew recieved 30".
William and Mary also had a son called Clarke Tydeman in 1771. A Clarke Tydeman is mentioned in Edmund's will, as one of his grandsons who received 5 each:
http://www.alan137.co.uk/family/i431.htm

Incidentally, it also appears from looking at the same tree that another of Edmund's daughters (I think it was Elizabeth) also married another son of Martin Tydeman, who was a brother of William.


Thank you.  :) ;)