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Offline andrew shanks

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Wilson of Larbert
« on: Tuesday 14 March 06 23:27 GMT (UK) »
I have Ann Wilson born in 1812 in Larbert to Peter Wilson & Isabella Brown. 

I am trying to establish whether this is the Peter Wilson who was the son of Robert Wilson & Isabel Laird, who were married in Larbert in 1781.

Grateful for any assistance.  :)
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Re: Wilson of Larbert
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 25 March 06 00:49 GMT (UK) »
Hello,

While there is no way to be absolutely certain, I believe that you are correct.

The 1851 census of Larbert has both Peter & Isabella alive and born in Larbert;
him aged 75 her aged 75.  She died 1862 in Larbert - I have her death certificate if you would like a copy.  Peter I think died 1851- 1855 so I can find no record of his death. Ann Wilson married John Penman and he was the witness on Isabella's death.

Isabella's family were originally from Tilcourtry Clackmannanshire.  The 2nd son I have for them is Charles Brown Wilson which confused me but Isabella has a brother Charles b 1772.

Robert Wilson & Isabel Laird are my 3x g grand parents.

regards
Dano

Stirlingshire, Scotland - Aitken, Waddell, Wilson, Rae, Dunlop, Liddell, McLuckie. Laird
Carmarthen, Wales - Lewis
Carvan, Ireland - Coyle
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Re: Wilson of Larbert
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 25 March 06 01:02 GMT (UK) »
One further piece of evidence- next on the census sheet to Peter Wilson & Isabella Brown in 1851, are Peter Wilson (his nephew) and Mary Rae. 

Peter b 1815 Larbert was the son of Peter's brother Adam Wilson & Margaret Fife.  I can confirm through his death certificate that Adam was definitely the son of Robert Wilson & Isabel Laird.

Does this help?

Dano
Stirlingshire, Scotland - Aitken, Waddell, Wilson, Rae, Dunlop, Liddell, McLuckie. Laird
Carmarthen, Wales - Lewis
Carvan, Ireland - Coyle
N.S.W. Australia - Lewis, Morris

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Re: Wilson of Larbert
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 28 March 06 09:04 BST (UK) »
Hello Dano

Thank you for this information.

I do not yet have the parents of Isabella Laird, so her death cert would be useful to have.  As far as Robert Wilson is concerned I have his parents as James Wilson & Margaret Harrower who married in Tillicoultry, Clacks on 28 May 1752 - does this agree with your own records?  Nothing beyond them at this stage unfortunately.

Regards

Andrew
Ireland: Arlour, Arlow, Hammond, Hannah, Shanks, Templeton

Scotland: Allan, Black, Carlyle, Corkingdale, Fleeting, Grant, Hammond, Hannah, Kirkwood, Lothian, McFarlane, Main, Neilson, Shanks, Sneddon, Stirling, Wood
 
Sussex/Hampshire/Surrey/London/Kent: Beagley, Champion, Clark, Douch, Earl, Jones, King, Ladyman, Ley, Pattenden, Peskett, Pink, Readings, Standen, Stonestreet, Windiate


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Re: Wilson of Larbert
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 28 March 06 11:15 BST (UK) »
Hi Andrew,

I will send you the certificate by personal e-mail.  Re the parents of Robert Wilson, I have Robert born 1756 Lasswade, Midlothian to Peter Wilson & Janet Gordon who married 1743  Lasswade, Midlothian.  The children's naming patterns seem to bear this out.

Cheers
Dano
Stirlingshire, Scotland - Aitken, Waddell, Wilson, Rae, Dunlop, Liddell, McLuckie. Laird
Carmarthen, Wales - Lewis
Carvan, Ireland - Coyle
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Re: Wilson of Larbert
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 01 April 06 09:15 BST (UK) »
Name:   Peter WILSON
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Birth:   1778   Larbert, Stirling.
Christen:   30 12 1778   Larbert, Stirling.
Occupation:   Coal miner
Father:   Robert WILSON (1757-)
Mother:   Isobel LAIRD (1756-)
Marriage:   1797   Larbert, Stirling.
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Spouse:   Isabella BROWN
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Birth:   12 5 1776   Larbert, Stirling.
Father:   William BROWN (1750-)
Mother:   Agnes SMOULT (1754-)

Children:
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1 M:   Robert WILSON
Birth:   1798   Larbert, Stirling.
Christen:   20 11 1798   Labert, Stirling.
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2 F:   Mary Orrick WILSON
Birth:   2 5 1802   Larbert, Stirling.
Christen:   9 5 1802   Larbert, Stirling.
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3 F:   Janet WILSON
Birth:   23 3 1804   Larbert, Stirling.
Christen:   25 3 1804   Larbert, Stirling.
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4 M:   David WILSON
Birth:   18 6 1806   Larbert, Stirling.
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5 F:   Ann WILSON
Birth:   1 3 1812   Larbert, Stirling.
Christen:   8 3 1812   Larbert, Stirling.
Death:   6 6 1897   Kinnaird, Larbert1
Occupation:   Coal miner's wife
Spouse:   John PENMAN
Marriage:   20 2 1831   Larbert, Stirling
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6 M:   John Brown WILSON
Birth:   16 4 1814   Larbert, Stirling.
Christen:   17 4 1814   Larbert, Stirling.
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7 F:   Mary WILSON
Birth:   1817   Stirling


Notes for Peter WILSON
1851 Census recs.
Census Place:Kinnaird, Stirling
Peter WILSON, 74, STI.
Isabella Brown WILSON, 75, STI.
Mary WILSON, 34, STI.


Notes for Isabella BROWN
1851 Census: Kinnaird, STI, Isabella Brown WILSON, 75yrs, PoB Stirling.




Notes for Ann (Child 5)
1851 Census: Kinnaird, STI, Ann Wilson PENMAN, 39, STI.
1861 Census: Kinnaird, Larbert, STI, Ann Wilson PENMAN, wife, marr., 50, STI, Kinnaird.
1871 Census: Kinnaird, Larbert, STI, Ann Wilson PENMAN, wife, marr., 59, STI, Kinnaird.
1881 Census: Mansfield Row, Larbert, STI, Annie Wilson PENMAN M 69  F Larbert, Stirling, Scotland.   Rel: Wife.




Notes for Mary (Child 7)
1851 Census: Kinnaird, STI, Mary WILSON, 34yrs, PoB Stirling


Sources
1. Death cert. No.112
Ann PENMAN, housewife, wid. John PENMAN, coal miner.
d.1897, Jun 6th, Kinnaird, STI, age 85. 
f.Peter WILSON, coal miner, decd. 
m.Isabella WILSON, ms BROWN, decd. 
cod.senile decay. 
sign. Alex PENMAN, son, occupier.
reg.1897, June 7th, Stenhousemuir, STI

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Last Modified:   5 11 2005
Created:   1 4 2006

All information taken from my personal database compiled from original sources - Crown Copyright acknowledge as stated.
Family names:SPINK (WRY), GOODWIN (DBY), PRATT (SCT & WRY), WILDGOOSE (DBY), STRETTON (LEI & DBY), MARTIN(ANS), NICOLL(ANS), McKENNA(TYR), STRAIN(DON), WALLACE(FIF), RAE(STI), PENMAN(STI) & CAPPIE(ELN).

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Re: Wilson of Larbert
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 01 April 06 09:54 BST (UK) »
This is a lot of info and ties in with what I had already.

I have another child of Peter Wilson & Isobella Brown:

Charles Brown Wilson  29 Jul 1800   Larbert, Stirlingshire, Scotland

Thanks again

Andrew
Ireland: Arlour, Arlow, Hammond, Hannah, Shanks, Templeton

Scotland: Allan, Black, Carlyle, Corkingdale, Fleeting, Grant, Hammond, Hannah, Kirkwood, Lothian, McFarlane, Main, Neilson, Shanks, Sneddon, Stirling, Wood
 
Sussex/Hampshire/Surrey/London/Kent: Beagley, Champion, Clark, Douch, Earl, Jones, King, Ladyman, Ley, Pattenden, Peskett, Pink, Readings, Standen, Stonestreet, Windiate

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Re: Wilson of Larbert
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 01 April 06 11:12 BST (UK) »
Charles Brown Wilson married Margaret Peterson 1820 Larbert.
Janet Wilson married Robert Wilson (son of William WIlson & Farquhar Laing 1826 Falkirk)
David Wilson married Agnes Fyfe(Fife) 1829 Clackmannan

Cheers
Dano
Stirlingshire, Scotland - Aitken, Waddell, Wilson, Rae, Dunlop, Liddell, McLuckie. Laird
Carmarthen, Wales - Lewis
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Re: Wilson of Larbert
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 01 April 06 11:32 BST (UK) »
many thanks.  if you want the rest of my WILSON data please email at Moderator comment: e-mail address removed to prevent spamming and other abuse.  Please use personal message system to exchange e-mail addresses.  Thank you!
All information taken from my personal database compiled from original sources - Crown Copyright acknowledge as stated.
Family names:SPINK (WRY), GOODWIN (DBY), PRATT (SCT & WRY), WILDGOOSE (DBY), STRETTON (LEI & DBY), MARTIN(ANS), NICOLL(ANS), McKENNA(TYR), STRAIN(DON), WALLACE(FIF), RAE(STI), PENMAN(STI) & CAPPIE(ELN).