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Did this man go to Canada or was it a myth
« on: Saturday 18 March 06 13:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi everyone
I'm looking for a Charles Houtby/Houltby/Holtby
in Canada (somewhere) before and after 1901.

I have found him on the 1881 aged 1, and the 1891 aged 11, living with his parents Edward and Frances and family at Skellingthorpe, Lincolnshire.

There is a story about him that says he went to Canada and joined the Mounties, but this could be a myth.

I've taken a look on the 1911, but can't see him anywhere.

He is said to have returned from Canada at some stage and moved to St. Albans.

He was a family myth until I found him on the 1880/91 proving that he actually did exist.

If anyone can help trace him it would be much appreciated.  As you can see there are various spellings of the name which complicate matters somewhat.

Thank you very much for your time and help.

Kind regards
Su
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Re: Did this man go to Canada or was it a myth
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 18 March 06 16:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sue:
You mention that he could have been in the mounties? There is a web site on the internet for the RCMP sorry I don't know the web address. But I am sure if you do a google search you will find it. Not sure if you should put RCMP Museum as a search. But I know if you find the site you could get in touch with them and they will let you know for sure if he was in the RCMP or North West Mount Police as it was known in the early years.  I snail mailed them a few years ago and go the information on my husband's relative that had been in NWMP.

I don; think the 1911 cenus is fully indexed yet.

Hope this is of some help.

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Re: Did this man go to Canada or was it a myth
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 18 March 06 20:32 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for replying Anne.  I will give it a go and see if I can find anything... New Mountie Motto...We don't always get our man... :D ;)

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Re: Did this man go to Canada or was it a myth
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 19 March 06 19:39 GMT (UK) »
wonder if he went to the USA? Do you have his middle name?


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Re: Did this man go to Canada or was it a myth
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 19 March 06 19:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi Shash, no he didn't have a middle name (not that we know of anyway).

He might have gone to USA.

I'll take a look at the site.

Many thanks for your trouble.

Su
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Hollingworth Hale Barnes/Mobberley Ches
Jones Salford/Altrincham
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Timperley Warburton/Dunham Massey
Yarwood Great Budworth,Lymm,Dumham Massey

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Re: Did this man go to Canada or was it a myth
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 19 March 06 20:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi Su

Even if he didn't stay in the USA, he may have come to Canada via the USA. He may have landed at Ellis Island. Their records are very good.

Go to: www.ellisisland.org

If you have trouble let me know and I'll see what I can do to help.
Also try looking up SSDI for the USA and see if there is a Charles listed. (social security death index) Go to google and ask for it, but put in 'free.'

Good luck.
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Re: Did this man go to Canada or was it a myth
« Reply #6 on: Monday 20 March 06 20:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi shash
I've checked ellis island and passenger lists, but can't find him...I think all different spellings of the name are causing problems.

Thanks for all your help anyway.

Love
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Cunliffe Hindley
Hollingworth Hale Barnes/Mobberley Ches
Jones Salford/Altrincham
Ramsdale Hindley Lancs
Timperley Warburton/Dunham Massey
Yarwood Great Budworth,Lymm,Dumham Massey

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Re: Did this man go to Canada or was it a myth
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 30 May 06 20:22 BST (UK) »

I don; think the 1911 cenus is fully indexed yet.


You can check out the 1911 census online as there are
several sites indexing it.  The following have ongoing
projects online:

http://allcensusrecords.com/canada/  Choose 1911

http://automatedgenealogy.com/

http://www.rootsweb.com/~ongenpro/census/


Ancestry.com and Ancestry.ca have the entire (indexed) 1911 census online, complete with images.


The images for the 1911 census are also online at Library & Archives Canada. They are not searchable by surname, only by geographic location. Kind of like going to a library or Family History Centre and scrolling through microfilm, but you get to do it from the comfort of your computer chair 

http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/1911/index-e.html

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Re: Did this man go to Canada or was it a myth
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 30 May 06 23:24 BST (UK) »
Hello, if you do a search at the site  ArchiviaNet using the online Research tool:

http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/02010502_e.html

You can find the following reference. Perhaps this is him?

 Reference: RG9 , Militia and Defence , Series II-F-10 , Volume 135 , Access code: 90 
 File Title:  HOLTBY, Norman George 
 Finding Aid number:  9-56
 
There are also instructions on this site for ordering copies of their material.

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