Four Crosses, Llandysilio 1851/61 census Look up- JONES

[Lloydy]

Hi Sue

Yes, I did find a Jones, well sort of   The middle name is Jones so I'll post the details anyway.

HO107/1434/3 folio 3 page 4
Calcott Hall, Domgay, Llandysilio

Francis L Lucker 40 Farmer
Bridget Lucker 25
Mary Bridget Lucker 5
John Frank Lucker 3
Ellen Jones Lucker 2 months

All born in County apart from Bridget

"Llandysilio is a hamlet in Powys, Wales. It is located near to Arddlin, Crickheath, Deuddwr, Domgay, Four Crosses, Haughton, Llandrinio, Llansantffraid-ym-Mechain, Llanyblodwel, Llanymynech, Llynclys, Maesbrook, Pant, Porth-y-waen, Rhos Common and Sarnau."

Ummmm....I'm not so sure that this is the right one   Is she too young

Jan

[Lloydy]

Me again!!!

I found a marriage between a Joseph Hill and an Ellen Jones in 1872 in Llanfyllin which covers her home parish but it looks as though that may be a false trail

I think it might be worth you getting the marriage certificate, then at least with a father's name I can search again for you - I hope his name isn't John!!!!!!!!

Jan

[Lloydy]

Hi

Have you got the 1891 details?  Joseph's mother Catherine is living with them!

Here's the details, just in case:

RG12/3002 folio 122, page 15
6 Laburnum Grove Ct, Wavertree, Lancaster

Joseph Hill Head M 49 Police Sergeant born Cheshire, Chester
Ellen Hill Wife M 46 born Montgomeryshire, Llandysilio (transcribed as Monmouthshire)
Eliza Hill Dau S 16 Domestic Servant born Lancashire, Stretford
William Hill Son S 14 Grocer's Assistant born  "
Mary Hill Dau S 13 Scholar born "
Thomas H Hill Son S 10 Scholar born "
Catherine Hill Mother W 87 Living on her own Means born Cheshire, Chester


Jan

[Lloydy]

and the 1901.........

RG13/3505 folio 24 page 40
11 Frederick Grove, Wavertree, Lancashire

Joseph Hill Head M 59 Retired Policy Sergant born Broughton Flint
Ellen Hill Wife M 53 born Four Crosses Llandysilio Wales (Anglesey has been added later - different writing)
William Hill Son S 25 Plumber (Railway) born Trafford M'Chester Lancs
Lily Worrall Granddaughter 2 born L'pool Lancs

Jan

[Lloydy]

Sue,

Have you got the earlier census details for Joseph and his family?  I've found his mother Catherine in the 1841 with husband, and Joseph's siblings, and the whole family in 1851.

Jan

[suemuffy]

Jan

Yes I have all the early census details and knew that Catherine was living with them in 1891.  In 1881 she is living with her married daughter, Ann in Liverpool.

I'm afraid the Ellen Jones Lucker is too young and my Ellen was born in Four Crosses, Llandysilio. She must be there somewhere!

At the moment I am plodding through the Hills in Gt Broughton, sounds like I'm rambling........perhaps I am!

Thanks for your effort, it must have taken you ages.

Sue

[Lloydy]

Hi Sue

I had a feeling that Ellen Jones Lucker was too young, oh well off I go to search again   I am enjoying the chase.........

Jan

[welsh lady]

Heres a possible in 1851 age slightly out but they often are in the censuses  but right area and only one i can find.Cordy?Llan ,Llanfyllin,Mont.Abraham Jones/Head/56/Stonemason/Meifod,Monm/Elizabeth Jones/Wife/57/Llanfihangel,Monm/Eliza Jones/Dau/13/Llanfyllin,Monm/David Jones/Son/8/Llanfyllin/Ellen Jones/Gdaughter/2/llanfyllin,Monm.Best Wishes Welsh Lady

[Lloydy]

Sue

and the 1901.........

RG13/3505 folio 24 page 40
11 Frederick Grove, Wavertree, Lancashire

Joseph Hill Head M 59 Retired Policy Sergant born Broughton Flint
Ellen Hill Wife M 53 born Four Crosses Llandysilio Wales (Anglesey has been added later - different writing)
William Hill Son S 25 Plumber (Railway) born Trafford M'Chester Lancs
Lily Worrall Granddaughter 2 born L'pool Lancs

Jan

Can you see my comment in brackets above about how Anglesey was added later.  Well, I've been doing some more searching and have discovered that there is in fact a Llandysilio in Anglesey, and on checking Multi Map there is a village called Four Crosses http://www.rootschat.com/links/0e4/

Do you think we are looking in the wrong county?!!

Jan

Edit:  Since typing this I've checked for any other marriages for Joseph Hill/Ellen Jones but there aren't any.  The years 1871 - 1877 are 100% complete on FreeBMD - oh I've confused myself now