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Re: Pentland - Uprichard, Gibson, Morrow. Ballyworkan.
« Reply #81 on: Thursday 06 June 13 08:29 BST (UK) »
Thanks Roy, it's true; everything comes to he who waits - even answers on Irish genealogy.

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Re: Pentland - Uprichard, Gibson, Morrow. Ballyworkan.
« Reply #82 on: Sunday 16 June 13 01:16 BST (UK) »
Since my last port it has come to light that Elizabeth Ewings has two possible immigration sources:
1. Eliza Ewing aged 15 arrived 11th January 1850 at Geelong on the ship "Diadem";
2. Elizabeth Ewens aged 18, arrived 20 September 1853 on the ship "Australia".  Nationality Irish and Scottish.
Her Granddaughter Lillian wrote an Autobiography, which states “It was my grandmother who brought us into the world. No doctor attended the birth of the Pentlands. My grandmother was a fully trained nurse, born at Gilmerton, a village near Swanston at the foot of the Pentland Hills, Scotland.”
These facts have now cleared up a confusion.
Eliza was widely known as the Midwife of the family and if the second immigration record is the right one, she may have lived in Ireland (as a house maid), but she was born in Scotland!  Not quite the Pentland link between Ireland and Scotland, but a key piece of information about our line.

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Re: Pentland - Uprichard, Gibson, Morrow. Ballyworkan.
« Reply #83 on: Sunday 16 June 13 08:23 BST (UK) »
I'm not clear; Eliza Ewings gave her origin as Irish and Scottish? If that is correct does it not imply her parents were that, one from Ireland and the other Scotland. Often the surname would give a clue but Ewings is just as likely to be found in Ireland as Scotland. As you say, however, nothing to do with the link between the Irish and Scottish Pentlands which puts to bed yet another oft repeated confusion all caused by a lassie writing abut her granny and people not reading properly what she wrote?

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Re: Pentland - Uprichard, Gibson, Morrow. Ballyworkan.
« Reply #84 on: Sunday 16 June 13 09:34 BST (UK) »
Hi Worldly Wanderer,
It may very well imply that she had one Scottish parent and one Irish parent, I had not considered this.  However Lillian clearly stated that her Grandmother was born in Gilberton.  She was also more than a mere lassie writing about her granny.  Lillian was very well educated and an artist of some renown back then.  She also ended up living in Scotland and eventually England in her last years.

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Re: Pentland - Uprichard, Gibson, Morrow. Ballyworkan.
« Reply #85 on: Sunday 25 March 18 21:22 BST (UK) »
Thanks for your input RedRover.  Unfortunately for me, no relatives on this site seem to be part of our Pentland Family.  .. Other than Colin Y. have any info on
William John PENTLAND   b.12 Sept. 1854, Drumaran.  Parents Davis PENTLAND and Elizabeth KITCHEN.    There is a William John PENTLAND listed on the Quacker site wherever that is, as I have not been able to find it so cannot  have this confirmed.
Arthurk, your post has come through while I was typing.  Is it possible the burial of William J. PENTLAND 1863  at 'Mullavilly' church cemetery is the one we are looking for died at the age of 11. ??  Have  you any other details.?
I have a note that William John Pentland, b. 12 sep 1856, Drumaran, Tullylish, married Anne Jane Hill.  They had a son, Richard Pentland, b. 1893, who died in 1936,  and is buried in Knocknamuckley. (some of this line came from the Pentland Boer family tree on ancestry.

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Re: Pentland - Uprichard, Gibson, Morrow. Ballyworkan.
« Reply #86 on: Sunday 25 March 18 22:06 BST (UK) »


See this  record, 

“Private William Henry Pentland (Married Mary Anne Whitten, (see Carrowbrack 1911 Irish census) 17982, 9th Bn., Royal Irish Fusiliers, who was killed in action during an attack on the village of Beaumont-Hamel on 1 July 1916, aged 45, on the opening day of the Battle of the Somme.  He was born in Aldershot, Hants, the son of George and Ann Pentland, Ballylisk, and he lived at Mary Street, Portadown.
He is buried in Ancre British Cemetery, Beaumont-Hamel, the Somme, and his name is remembered on a headstone in Mullavilly Parish Churchyard, and on the Portadown War Memorial and on the Tandragee War Memorial.”

Rather interesdingly if you search the 1881 census for England you will find more than one Irish born Pentland who had military connections.


If there was only one W. H. Pentland does that mean the other marker mentioned above is the grave of George Pentland and Ann O'Hara?
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On Find My Past, there is a record for George Pentland, son of George, who married Anne Miller on 18 nov 1852 at Mullavilly COI, Kilmore, Armagh, fhl film 101343.