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Offline pierce-brosnan

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My 10 year brick wall :O(
« on: Saturday 22 April 06 19:16 BST (UK) »
Hi there,

My husbands 3 x great grandfather James HOPWOOD was born in Cardiganshire according to all the census returns I have ...
Someone has just informed me of the following ...
"Llangeitho is a village and community in Ceredigion."


1861 Census
Bollington Road, Ashton-under-Lyne
James Hopwood - Head - Mar - 49 - Iron Turner - Wales
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Elizabeth Hopwood - Wife - Mar - 54 - Liverpool
Ellis Hopwood - Son - Um - 27 - Self Actor Minder - Ashton-under-Lyne
Mary Ann Hopwood - Um - Daur - 24 - Cotton Trim & Test - Ashton-under-Lyne
John Hopwood - Son - Um - 20 - Piecer Cotton - Ashton-under-Lyne
Sarah Jane Hopwood - Um - Daur - 16 - Dressmaker - Ashton-under-Lyne

 
1871 Census
7 Bollington Road, Ashton-under-Lyne
James Hopwood - Head - Mar - 59 - Corporation Labourer  - Llanwithalow Wales
Elizabeth Hopwood - Wife - Mar - 64 - Liverpool
Mary Ann Herbert  - Mar - Daur - 36 - Dressmaker  - Ashton-under-Lyne
Eliza A Herbert - Gdaur - Um - 11 - Scholar - Ashton-under-Lyne
Sarah Higgingbottom - Daur - Mar - 26 - Hat Trimmer - Ashton-under-Lyne
Joe W Higgingbottom - SinL - Mar - 26 - Police Constable - Glossop
James W Higgingbottom - Gson - 1 - Ashton-under-Lyne

 
1881 Census
Margaret Street, Cromwell Terrace, Ashton-under-Lyne
Joe W Higgingbottom - Head - Mar - 36 - Policeman - Padfield, Derbyshire
Sarah Higgingbottom - Wife - Mar - 36 - Housekeeper - Ashton-under-Lyne
John Higgingbottom - Son - 9 - Scholar - Ashton-under-Lyne
Harry Higgingbottom - Son - 3 - Scholar - Ashton-under-Lyne
James A Higgingbottom - Son - 1 - Ashton-under-Lyne
Elizabeth Higgingbottom - Daur - 3 months - Ashton-under-Lyne
James Hopwood - FinL - Wid - 70 - Scavenger  - Llangwtho Wales

I have absolutely no idea where to look for his baptism - please could some kind sole point me in the right direction?  I'd be eternally grateful for any help :O)

Vanda (Isle of Wight)

Moderator Comment: If anybody can help, then please check out the thread on the Wales - General Board as well, to avoid duplication of efforts. Thanks :)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,150756.0.html
Barnes - High Peak, Derbyshire
Bramwell - Chapel-en-le-Frith, Derbyshire
Brown - Edingly, Nottinghamshire
Crossland - Derbyshire & Lancashire
Elvey & Eastland - Thanet
Foster - Farnsfield, Nottinghamshire
Hardy - Lancashire
Hopwood - Lancashire
Horrocks - Lancashire & Yorkshire
Larkin - Derbyshire & Ireland
Luxton - Chard, Somerset
Mason - Herefordshire
Notley - Somerset
Oakden - Staffs
Quayle - Manchester & IOM
Shirt - Derbyshire
Smith - Lancashire & Yorkshire

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Re: My 10 year brick wall :O(
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 23 April 06 01:18 BST (UK) »
Hi Vanda,
I can see your problem and it does seem likely that James was born in Llangeitho - a parish 8 miles north east of Lampeter in Cardiganshire - the difficulty probably caused by the census enumerator trying to write an unfamiliar sounding name phonetically.   
I checked the 1841 census for Llangeitho but could not find him, so perhaps he had already moved.
Sorry I can't be of more help but I think you would have to go to the parish records.   You could try the National Library of Wales at Aberystwyth at http://www.llgc.org.uk/ who hold records for the whole of Wales or the Ceredigion Record Office http://archifdy-ceredigion.org.uk/  who hold records for Cardiganshire.   The ladies are very helpful  :)
Cheers Dave
Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk   Research:   Clements, Jenkins, Jones, Williams, Davies, Renfrey in Cardiganshire.   Trow, Jones, Clayton in Montgomeryshire.  Renfrey, Datsun, May, Stephens in Cornwall.   Foster in Liverpoo.l   Milliner, Fry, in Gloucestershire.  Mawby, Popple in Rutland.   Kent, Fry, Robinson, Nott, Griffiths in Somerset.   Willis in Oxfordshire.   Fishlock, Snell, Fry, in Wiltshire

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Re: My 10 year brick wall :O(
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 23 April 06 12:47 BST (UK) »
Thank you Dave,

I'll try the Ceredigion Record Office - thanks
Barnes - High Peak, Derbyshire
Bramwell - Chapel-en-le-Frith, Derbyshire
Brown - Edingly, Nottinghamshire
Crossland - Derbyshire & Lancashire
Elvey & Eastland - Thanet
Foster - Farnsfield, Nottinghamshire
Hardy - Lancashire
Hopwood - Lancashire
Horrocks - Lancashire & Yorkshire
Larkin - Derbyshire & Ireland
Luxton - Chard, Somerset
Mason - Herefordshire
Notley - Somerset
Oakden - Staffs
Quayle - Manchester & IOM
Shirt - Derbyshire
Smith - Lancashire & Yorkshire

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Re: My 10 year brick wall :O(
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 02 May 06 06:09 BST (UK) »
Hi Vanda,

A quick check on the 1841 England census has this family still living in Ashton-under-Lyne. FYI!

-Chris
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Smerdon of Skewen & Neath Abbey
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Re: My 10 year brick wall :O(
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 02 May 06 16:52 BST (UK) »
Thank you Chris,

I have the 1841 census but didn't put it in my post  :)

I really appreciate your help though, very many thanks  ;D

Best wishes Vanda
Barnes - High Peak, Derbyshire
Bramwell - Chapel-en-le-Frith, Derbyshire
Brown - Edingly, Nottinghamshire
Crossland - Derbyshire & Lancashire
Elvey & Eastland - Thanet
Foster - Farnsfield, Nottinghamshire
Hardy - Lancashire
Hopwood - Lancashire
Horrocks - Lancashire & Yorkshire
Larkin - Derbyshire & Ireland
Luxton - Chard, Somerset
Mason - Herefordshire
Notley - Somerset
Oakden - Staffs
Quayle - Manchester & IOM
Shirt - Derbyshire
Smith - Lancashire & Yorkshire