Cyril Berry has been rescued!!!

[cheshiremog]

Dear Daisy
Wow that is a great find - we now have something to go on.
We now need to look for any births possibly in the Dudley area to Cyril and Irene with mother's maiden name as Cutts to establish whether they had any children.

I have found the family on the 1901 Census at Bridle Lane, Leabrooks, Derbys - about 1 -2 miles from Jacksdale.

1901 Wm Brown Head 52? coal miner b. Notts Bingham
Elizabeth Brown wife 63 ? b. Notts Lowdham
Frank Berry S 23 coal miner hewer b. Derbys Leabrooks
Clara Bertram ? Grand dau  16 b. Leics Loughborough
Alfred Berry S 21 coal loader hewer b. Derbyshire Leabrooks

Elizabeth Brown - formerly Berry - re-married 1899 March to Wm Brown

Her son Frank Berry married Bertha Parkin Sep 1902
with several children born in the Belper Registration District

Her son Alfred Todd Berry (father of Cyril) married Sep 1907 - either to Bertha Hill or Elizabeth Smith.  They had F Gwendoline Berry and Cyril Berry - have not identified any other siblings as yet.

[Daisypetal]

F Gwendoline could be,

Florence Gwendoline BERRY    Jnn Q 1907    Belper    7b  724


Daisy

[Daisypetal]

I've looked 1932-1942 for BERRY/CUTTS births but couldn't find any


Daisy

[elsiegee1]

Well I don't know, I leave you all for 24 hours and look how far you've come! Thanks ever so much.
I'm a bit out of sync now though, soI'll study it and come back to you...

Elsie

[elsiegee1]

Cheshiremog,

If Cyril would have been 9 when this photo was taken, do you think he would have been on it?

http://www.jacksdale.org.uk/pages/JDHeritage/Schools/IV1918.htm

[cheshiremog]

Hi Elsie
Thanks for sending over all of the scans - they are very interesting.  I can explain one or two things - Yes Cyril attended Ironville Boys School as his school reference was written by the head master there Mr Jackson.  As for the photo of the Ironville Boys  yes Cyril would have been attending in 1918 - but I do not have names for all the pupils and could not confirm that that particular photo is of his class.

The reference written by Mr Stringfellow of Jacksdale Council Schools relates to Cyrils attendance at evening classes at Jacksdale School - after he left Ironville.

I do not know who Stu Danny Ricky Reg of Violet can be ?

Inch by inch I am sure we will get there !!

Carol

[elsiegee1]

Don't know if anyone's still following this (it's been a while!) but I've just had a look on freebmd and found a death for an Irene M Berry in Notts in June 1934 (0 years) - poss stillborn? (Notts 7b 308). Also a death for Irene M Berry in Birmingham in June 1959 aged 48 (birm 9c 457), so that seems to fit...

[Annette7]

The baby Irene M. Berry who died June 1934 Notts. was born the same quarter, but her mothers maiden name was Lambert.

Annette

[Annette7]

Electoral rolls show Cyril W A Berry and Irene M Berry were in Birmingham from at least 1945 until 1955 (records don't go any further than this) so that fits with her death in Birmingham.

Annette