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Offline Fliss

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THOMAS PHELAN/COLLINS
« on: Sunday 17 October 04 18:45 BST (UK) »
Can anyone do a look-up of parish regisers for LINSLADE?
Thomas, base-born son of Ann Phelan was born circa 1866, Linslade, Beds.
She married Alfred Alexander COLLINS within months of the birth.
So - not sure if Thomas given Phelan or Collins as surname!
Can't trace him via national birth registers- this is my last resort!
Many thanks
Fliss ;)
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Re: THOMAS PHELAN/COLLINS
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 17 October 04 21:05 BST (UK) »
Hi Fliss!!

How do you know he was born in Linslade???  Where were his parents married??  She could have been working or living anywhere before she married Alfred??

The reason for the questions is that I found a marriage of Ann and Alfred Collins of 6.10.1867 in Old Church, St. Pancras, London????

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Re: THOMAS PHELAN/COLLINS
« Reply #2 on: Friday 05 November 04 16:26 GMT (UK) »
You located the right couple - Ann & Alfred did marry as you state.
Ann, born in Ireland (exact location unknown) was formerly a PHELAN.

Ann was actually expecting her second child - a son called Alfred - at the time of the marriage; he was born 3 months later.
As to whether THOMAS was Alfred's natural son, I have no way of knowing.
I tend to think, rightly or wrongly, that THOMAS was not ALFRED's son.

I have searched extensively through English birth registers (and applied for certificates of possible candidates) but am unable to find his birth listed either under COLLINS or PHELAN.

Of course, based upon lack of evidence to the contrary,  it's more than likely that THOMAS was born in Ireland before Ann came over here but how would I go about trying to search for his birth in Irish records?

Throughout his adult life (censuses) THOMAS always gave his place of birth as 'Linslade' but perhaps he knew no different? Ann and Alfred, after their marriage lived in Aylesbury where they raised their children between Jan 1868 - Oct 1873.

I thank you for your reply and if you have any further ideas as to how I continue what is, so far, a fruitless search, I'll much appreciate it!  :)
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MUNT - Herts & Middx
CHARLES - Devon & Middx
GLEED - Northants & Middx
WILSON - Bucks & Middx
SMITH - Lechlade & Lambeth & Surrey
FARRER - Lowestoft & Newington & Surrey
FAIRBRASS - Kent & Surrey
HOUSE & YOUNG - Compton Dando / Burnett, Somerset
YOUNG - Bingley / Bradford, Yks
RAMSDEN - Bradford, Brackley area
ENGLISH - Tynemouth & Wales