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Offline Vicwinann

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WHILEMAN Clay Cross and Wingfield
« on: Sunday 07 May 06 06:15 BST (UK) »
Hello
I have finally found out what my uncle Wilfred's surname was - WHILEMAN and he was born 1898 Clay Cross.  He married my mother's sister, Lily SAUNDERS,  in Greenwich in 1918, but they lived in the Wingfield area  Derbys  after their marriage.
Unfortunately, the two sisters did not get on too well and Lily was 20 years older than my mother, so there was no contact with them for me as a child, although I do have one of Lily's wedding photos.  I would dearly like to know whether Wilfred and Lily had any children who would be my cousins.

I am obviously now also trying to research Wilfred's family, so if anyone has any information about him- his father was Frank, mother probably Mary Elizabeth SMITH - I would love to hear from you.
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Re: WHILEMAN Clay Cross and Wingfield
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 07 May 06 07:47 BST (UK) »

Hi

This should at least confirm Wilfred's mother's name:

1901 RG13/3243/63/14
Alma Sq, Clay Cross, Derbyshire
Frank Whileman, head, 27, iron foundry labourer, worker, b. Clay Cross, Derbys.
Mary E Whileman, wife, 23, b. Clay Cross
Wildred Whileman, son, 3, b. Clay Cross
Florrie Whileman, dau, 1, b. Clay Cross
Eliza Ann Smith, visitor, 10, b. Clay Cross
John Lynam, boarder, mar, 25, coal miner labourer (G Below), worker, b. Grassmoor, Derbys
Nellie Lynam, boarder, mar, 19, b. Clay Cross

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K.
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Re: WHILEMAN Clay Cross and Wingfield
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 07 May 06 07:53 BST (UK) »
Hello
Thank you very much for the full 1901 census for Frank Whileman and family.  I only had the Index reference but this seems to confirm my Wilfred's mother's surname.  I am most grateful.
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Vicwinann
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Re: WHILEMAN Clay Cross and Wingfield
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 07 May 06 08:06 BST (UK) »

... and here's Wilfred's grandfather.

1891 RG12/2757/101/1     (indexed as Whiteman)
?ardenus Inn, Market Street, Clay Lane, Derbyshire
Thomas Whileman, head, 42, Innkeeper (pub), b. Clay Cross
Sarah Whileman, wife, 39, b. Higham, Derbys
George Whileman, son, single, 19, coal miner, b. Clay Cross
Frank Whileman, son, s, 17, coal miner, b. Clay Cross
Mary Ann Whileman, dau, 15, b. b. Darlesmoor?, Derbys
Elizabeth Whileman, dau, 12, scholar, b. Clay Cross
Nellie Whileman, dau, 9, scholar, b. Clay Cross
Agness Dove, servant, s, 18, servant (Dom), b. Sutton in Ashfield, Nottingham

Cheers
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Lewis: Llanfair Kilgeddin | Abergavenny | NZ
Stallworthy: Bucks. | Samoa | NZ
Brothers: Nottingham | NZ
Darling: Dunbar | Tahiti
Keat: St Minver | NZ
Bowles: Deal | NZ
Coaney: Bucks.
Jones: Brecon

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Re: WHILEMAN Clay Cross and Wingfield
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 07 May 06 09:58 BST (UK) »
Hello
Again thank you for finding that for me.  As you can apppreciate, I have only just started researching this family, and your help has pushed me on considerably. The Whileman's seem to have married into the Doves of Sutton in Ashfield in the 19th century according to the IGI and FreeBMD.  Thank you
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Re: WHILEMAN Clay Cross and Wingfield
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 01 December 07 19:03 GMT (UK) »
Hey

I have a family of Whileman's from Clay Cross.

My grandma was a Whileman before she got married.
I think theres two Whileman family's in Clay Cross because i got a bit confused when searching mine.

My Grandma was Irene Whileman b.1927

her mother and father were Sam Whileman b. 1901 and Lily Hardwick b.1902

Sam's father was George Whileman b.1858

and his father was also called George b.1816.

My grandma said she had an Auntie Florrie who married a John May from matlock
and a Auntie Nellie who married a Foster.
Thats were it got confusing.

I still ain't 100% sure weather i go the right family yet.

if you could write back and tell me if you recognize any names then that would be great.

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Re: WHILEMAN Clay Cross and Wingfield
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 10 August 13 22:19 BST (UK) »
Hi my name is lee whileman I'm from shirland and I now live in chesterfield my name was in one of the old posts below, iv bin looking though the posts and from what I can see I have some new names for you from my side of the family, I would love to hear form any one as I to I'm trying to put the whileman family slowly together.

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Re: WHILEMAN Clay Cross and Wingfield
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 11 August 13 05:32 BST (UK) »
Hello Lee,
Since originally starting this thread, I have done a fair bit of research on the Whileman's of Clay Cross and places elsewhere.
I am sure we can collaborate to our mutual benefit, although I haven't done much on the Whileman's for the last year. 

If you can send me a private mail, I will give you my email address and we can go from there. I suspect from national registrations that I may already have you speculatively on my tree.
Look forward to hearing from you.
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Vicwinann
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Re: WHILEMAN Clay Cross and Wingfield
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 04 March 18 07:36 GMT (UK) »
Hello Vicwinann,

Are you still researching Wilfred WHILEMAN? Wilfred was my paternal grandfather.

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