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Re: Clezy, Clezie connections
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 14 December 06 00:24 GMT (UK) »
hi sharon if you need any census lookups please let me know, i will do my best to help

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Re: Clezy, Clezie connections
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 14 December 06 00:42 GMT (UK) »
Joe,
Thank you very much for the very kind offer.  My brick wal is:  John Clazey married to Isabelle Oswald.  Their first son, George Oswald Clazie was baptized at Holy Trinity Church, Berwick-Upon-Tweed.  She in other records stated her birthplace as Ford.  John was the son of James Clazey (Claizy) and Helen Ker born in 1798, Longformacus.  I found that through Scotlandspeople and ordered the parish record.  George was baptized in 1815 or 1816 depending which source I found. John's family is located in Eccles Churchyard. According to a genealogy Isabelle was working on before her death in 1874, Bishopwearmouth...John died when the boys were small and too young to take over running the mill.  George's sister, Isabelle, died young in Berwick-Upon -Tweed...the other two boys, James and John were baptized in Etal.  But...there is no record of John or a death there. The clues I have is John's sister born in Fogo...she married a John Wilson in 1832 and was rebuked for a clandestine marriage. Isabelle wrote about a "benefactor" who rescued the family from hard times...and her son, James, erected a memorial to Mary in Guildford, Surrey, where she died.  The last son of John and Isabelle was born in 1824.  I have not been able to find Isabelle in any 1841 Census. Have not been able to determine or find any record of when John died or in Isabelle's words, "left the family".  He is not in the family plot of clazeys in Eccles.

Sorry to go on at such length...

sharon
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Re: Clezy, Clezie connections
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 14 December 06 10:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi Clazy,

This might muddy the Waters.

1851 Eymouth Village.
William Bell  H  M  54  Pauper Formerly Farmer  Berwick,Eccles.
Isabella Bell  W  N  33  Pauper Dress Maker  Berwick, Chirnside.
Isabella Clazie  Step daughter    4  Berwick,Eyemouth.

1851 Chirnside Village.
Peter Drummond  h  M  28  Ag.Lab.  E.Lothian,Athelstandford.
Mary Drummond  W  M  23   Berwick, Eyemouth.
Peter Drummomd  S   5   Berwick, Chirnside.
Margaret Clazie  Mother in Law  Widow  55  Berwick, Chirnside.
John Clazie  Nephew   10  Scholar  Berwick, Eymouth.

1851 Ayton, Millbank House.
Janet Clazie  Serv.  U  20  House Servant.  Berwick, Eyemouth.
Scottish Borders - Wait Binnie Aitchison Whitelaw Sligo Fairgrieve Fairburn Robinson Plenderlieth Robson Broadwith Park Dickie Kerr Wilson Lockie Oliver Brown Scott.
Ross & Cromarty, Forsyth Bain.
Kincardine, Forsyth Lownie.
Staffordshire - Smith Steele Hallmark Colclough Dunn Booth Frost.
Shropshire - Tennant.
Sheffield - Savage England Corn Trippett.
Lincolnshire - Savage Smalley Allitt Booth Addison Kirton.
Huntingdonshire - Corn Connington Randall Baxter Booth .

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Re: Clezy, Clezie connections
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 14 December 06 11:17 GMT (UK) »
another wee bit to add

1841 census 18 meadow place, edinburgh. the clazy family

george...age 47...home miseconay
robina...age 55
george...age 15...draper's app
margaret...age 13

all born scotland


1841 census: knowes, kelso, roxburghshire, the clazy family

william...age 34...manager of gasworks
mary...age 28...born roxburgh

1841 census: byethorn, selkirk, the clezy family

john...age 50...teacher...born england
mary...age 35...born scotland
mary...age 8
john...age 6
james...age 4
elizabeth...age 4
isabella...age 1

all born selkirk unless stated otherwise
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Re: Clezy, Clezie connections
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 14 December 06 11:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi Clazy,
Just for the record, 1841 Berwickshire, no Clazies found in;

Duns,Coldstream,Coburnpath,Westruther,Swinton,Hume,Langton & Ladykirk.
Scottish Borders - Wait Binnie Aitchison Whitelaw Sligo Fairgrieve Fairburn Robinson Plenderlieth Robson Broadwith Park Dickie Kerr Wilson Lockie Oliver Brown Scott.
Ross & Cromarty, Forsyth Bain.
Kincardine, Forsyth Lownie.
Staffordshire - Smith Steele Hallmark Colclough Dunn Booth Frost.
Shropshire - Tennant.
Sheffield - Savage England Corn Trippett.
Lincolnshire - Savage Smalley Allitt Booth Addison Kirton.
Huntingdonshire - Corn Connington Randall Baxter Booth .

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Re: Clezy, Clezie connections
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 14 December 06 12:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi All,
The William and Mary on the 1841 census is his second wife Mary Mason as he was previously Married to Jane Ker Ross.
Sharon: I dont know if Jane was any relation to Helen Ker, I do know her parents were Robert Ross and Isabella Mathewson, These are the family that I come from. I am trying to find out if Robert or Isabella have the name Ker anywhere in their familys as it is a strange name to give Jane as I cannot find anyone else with it as a second name.
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Anne.
Scotland:Ross, Wilson, Slater, Reid, White.
England: Todd, Butterworth, Bearpark, Angell, Spreadborough,
to name but a few.

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Re: Clezy, Clezie connections
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 14 December 06 21:33 GMT (UK) »
Thanks to everyone and yes, the water is muddied but it has filled in huge gaps I had. The John and Mary in Selkirk are the ones who emigrated to Australia and their descendents are there still.

The Drummond entry is the second connection I have found for Clazies with that name.  I had never seen the Bell marriage except with Robina nor the Peter Drummond family.

Thank you again...

Sharon
Tough, Keith, Kerr, Donaldson, Clazey, Stephenson, Jardine, Spry, Jewell. Oswald, Middlemiss, Harper, Carter, Hutchinson, Scott, Lamb.

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Re: Clezy, Clezie connections
« Reply #16 on: Friday 15 December 06 00:25 GMT (UK) »
another wee bit

1861 census: huttonhall mill, hutton

george clazey...head...age 34...ploughman...born dunse
mary...wife...age 33
cecil...dau(!)...age 5
john...son...age 3

all born hutton unless otherwise stated

1861 census: east printonian, eccles

william clazie...head...age 71...ploughman...born edrom
isabella...wife...age 66...born ladykirk
charles...son...age 23...ploughman...born mordington


1861 census: lambsmill, mordington

thomas clezie...head...age 52...flour miller...born fogo
agnes...wife...age 54
james...son...age 30...flour miller
agnes tully...niece...age 12

all born mordington unless stated otherwise


1861 census: garrison, chirnside

Janet clazie...head...age 30...paper mill worker...born eyemouth
william...son...age 7
james...son...age 5

all born chirnside unless stated otherwise

1861 census: hutton village, hutton

Jessie clazie...head...age 55...born polwath
james...son...age 34...ploughman
helen...dau...age 31...field labourer
helen...grand-daughter...age 4

all born hutton unless otherwise stated


1861 census: chirnside

margaret clazie...widow...age 65...gro & ironger...born chirnside
john...son...age 28...house carpenter
john...age 20...stone mason

all born eyemouth unless stated otherwise

1861 census: kimmelaghame mains farm cottages, edrom

robert clazie...head...age 26...ploughman...born fouldin
christina...wife...age 32...born chirnside
william...son...age 2...born whitsome
agnes...dau...age 3 months...born edrom


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Re: Clezy, Clezie connections
« Reply #17 on: Friday 15 December 06 02:02 GMT (UK) »
The "waters" are now fully roiled. These are folks I have only found in a brief birth or marriage record and now there is the entire family! You are an absolute marvel.  Thank you very, very much...I teach high school in the US and I have three more days left until Christmas break...this will give me fun stuff to do!!! I have then almost a month off...

Sharon
Tough, Keith, Kerr, Donaldson, Clazey, Stephenson, Jardine, Spry, Jewell. Oswald, Middlemiss, Harper, Carter, Hutchinson, Scott, Lamb.