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Offline niseone

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1901 census look up please Rueben Farmer / Edith Mabel Green
« on: Sunday 21 May 06 13:34 BST (UK) »
Help please..have a marriage cert for Edith Mabel Green, b 1893 ( father De Beriot Green)  she a String Bass player, he a violinist of Italian extraction..

                                  married 3.4.1915

and Rueben Farmer, b1883 ( father Frederick William Farmer).... both shown on cert at Battersea, London.... Rueben a Clarionet player in the Irish Guards

 Have tried looking on free BMD, no luck, and am a bit wooly after anaesthetic for an operation earlier this week, is there a kind soul out there who can please help me out...as you have done many times in the past...    :-*

Thanks Denise
SPEAR, Liverpool
WILLIAMS, LIverpool,Poole Dorset
BURCHEL,Liv
STEVENS,Liv
TAYLOR,TURNER,HOLMAN,GILES,ASHELFORD,CONYBEER,(Bridgwater,Somerset), BLAKE,( Clayhanger, Devon)
WENNBERG, Norway/Sweden

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Re: 1901 census look up please Rueben Farmer / Edith Mabel Green
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 21 May 06 14:27 BST (UK) »
All I could come up with on a quick search...

2 Gloster Place,m Cheltenham - 1881
RG11/2570/42/12
De Bencot GREEN - a lodger.....Unmarried, 21, a musician, born Lambeth, Surrey



1891 - Farmer children, scholar's/inmates at - Hanwell, Central London District School
RG12/1038/147/30
All born St George's, Surrey

Frederick Wm? Farmer 13
George  9
Reuben  7
Emma  10


1881 - 36 Euston Street, St Pancras

Frederick FARMER  Head  27  Trumpeter 2nd pipe ? B: Middlesex London
Fanny FARMER  wife  24   Laundress  B: Paddington
Frederick J? Farmer  3  son
Bessie Farmer  3  dau
Emma S Farmer  6 months  dau
Annie Moore (possibly ditto farmer????)  governess  17?

children & governess all born St. Pancras



1901 -

Fanny Farmer  widow  43  b. Paddington
Frederick Farmer   son  23  Musician b. St Pancras
Bessie M Farnmer  dau  22 tailoress  b. St Pancras

(didn't get details of last one.....
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Census transcriptions Crown Copyright, www.NationalArchives.gov.uk

Ardill,  Bourke/Burke, Bellwood, Bridge, Cain, Church, Cragg,  Dennell, Dunning, Gough, Haslam, Holmes, Jessop, Kidson/Kitson, Knowles, Markwick, Martin, Munden, Nickerson, Robinson,  Seddon, Whittle, Varley & Walpole.

Areas: Yorkshire, Lancashire, Norfolk, Marylebone & Tipperary

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Re: 1901 census look up please Rueben Farmer / Edith Mabel Green
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 21 May 06 18:13 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much..how interesting. I think they have to be the right ones due to the musical influences...

Where do you think Reuben went in 1901..was it him you couldn't read do you think?  perhaps he had joined the military band!

Were the Farmer children residents of the school in1891? perhaps father had died... I have tried free BMD with no result,  he is not shown in 1901 is he, yet mother is this time... rather intriguing!

De Beriot Green I would think the same one, if spelling different...( I believe it was Verdi, they come from Italy and changed to Green, but trying to establish when).. do you think he is in the 1871/61 census?

Thanks again for your help, time very much at a premium for me at the moment, this is great....   :)

Denise
SPEAR, Liverpool
WILLIAMS, LIverpool,Poole Dorset
BURCHEL,Liv
STEVENS,Liv
TAYLOR,TURNER,HOLMAN,GILES,ASHELFORD,CONYBEER,(Bridgwater,Somerset), BLAKE,( Clayhanger, Devon)
WENNBERG, Norway/Sweden

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Re: 1901 census look up please Rueben Farmer / Edith Mabel Green
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 21 May 06 19:49 BST (UK) »
Charles Auguste De Beriot (1802-1870) was a famous Belgian, classical violinist


Perhaps he was named after him by a 'musical family ? or there could be a closer connection...

I found this marriage -

GREEN -

Spohr De Beriot R.

Dec quarter 1884 - St Saviour (Southwark)  Ref: 1d 223

Maybe this will give you a clue !
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Census transcriptions Crown Copyright, www.NationalArchives.gov.uk

Ardill,  Bourke/Burke, Bellwood, Bridge, Cain, Church, Cragg,  Dennell, Dunning, Gough, Haslam, Holmes, Jessop, Kidson/Kitson, Knowles, Markwick, Martin, Munden, Nickerson, Robinson,  Seddon, Whittle, Varley & Walpole.

Areas: Yorkshire, Lancashire, Norfolk, Marylebone & Tipperary

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Re: 1901 census look up please Rueben Farmer / Edith Mabel Green
« Reply #4 on: Monday 22 May 06 15:15 BST (UK) »
Once again thank you...  I had found the same marriage too...it's facinating isn't it..please feel free to dig as much as you want, it would really be such a big help to me in my current situation ..   :)  Denise
SPEAR, Liverpool
WILLIAMS, LIverpool,Poole Dorset
BURCHEL,Liv
STEVENS,Liv
TAYLOR,TURNER,HOLMAN,GILES,ASHELFORD,CONYBEER,(Bridgwater,Somerset), BLAKE,( Clayhanger, Devon)
WENNBERG, Norway/Sweden

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Re: 1901 census look up please Rueben Farmer / Edith Mabel Green
« Reply #5 on: Monday 22 May 06 16:23 BST (UK) »
How about this..... he is indexed as Berrot Green

1871 census - at 12 York Road, Lambeth
RG10/653/39/23

Charles CARLO  Head  27  Ballet Master  B: Vienna, Austria
Emma CARLO   wife   26  Dancer   B: Lambeth
Leopold CARLO  brother  14  scholar  B: Vienna, Austria
Jabez GREEN  Father-in-law  52  gas fitter  B: Lambeth
Liza? GREEN  Mother-in=law  52     B: Islington
Lilly GREEN  sister-in-law  18  Dancer   B: Lambeth
Berriot GREEN  brother-in-law   12   scholar   B: Lambeth
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Ardill,  Bourke/Burke, Bellwood, Bridge, Cain, Church, Cragg,  Dennell, Dunning, Gough, Haslam, Holmes, Jessop, Kidson/Kitson, Knowles, Markwick, Martin, Munden, Nickerson, Robinson,  Seddon, Whittle, Varley & Walpole.

Areas: Yorkshire, Lancashire, Norfolk, Marylebone & Tipperary

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Re: 1901 census look up please Rueben Farmer / Edith Mabel Green
« Reply #6 on: Monday 22 May 06 16:30 BST (UK) »
1891 - looks like 59 Treherne Road, Lambeth
RG12/404/172/11   - indexed as Debuiot Green

De Beriot GREEN  Head   32   Violinist  B: Lambeth  Deaf one ear
Annie GREEN   wife   23   B: Bow
Ernest GREEN   son   3   B: Lambeth
Horace GREEN   son  14 months   B: Lambeth
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Census transcriptions Crown Copyright, www.NationalArchives.gov.uk

Ardill,  Bourke/Burke, Bellwood, Bridge, Cain, Church, Cragg,  Dennell, Dunning, Gough, Haslam, Holmes, Jessop, Kidson/Kitson, Knowles, Markwick, Martin, Munden, Nickerson, Robinson,  Seddon, Whittle, Varley & Walpole.

Areas: Yorkshire, Lancashire, Norfolk, Marylebone & Tipperary

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Re: 1901 census look up please Rueben Farmer / Edith Mabel Green
« Reply #7 on: Monday 22 May 06 16:46 BST (UK) »
No sign of them in 1901

1861 - 61 Carlisle St., Lambeth

Jabez GREEN  Head  43  Musician  B: Lambeth
Eliza GREEN  wife  42    B: Middlesex, Pentonville
Jabez GREEN   son   18   B: Lambeth
Emma GREEN   dau   16         "
Wiotti GREEN  son   11           "
Eliza GRREEN   dau   8            "
Rosina GREEN   son   3           "


1851 0- George's Place, Lambeth

Jabez GREEN  Head   34   Lamplighter   B: Lambeth
Eliza GREEN   wife   33    B: Islington
Jabez GREEN   son   8   B: Lambeth
Viotti GREEN   son   1   B: Lambeth
Emma E GREEN   dau   6   B: Lambeth



1841 - King Street, Lambeth
(SDt Mary's)

Jabez GREEN   20   Lamp lighter  yes
Eliza GREEN  20                           no
James GREEN  1 year                   yes



Also - on the IGI - there is the baptism of Jabez Green senior

inb Lambeth....6th April 1817
parents - William & Elizabeth....

I will leave you to search further !!!
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Census transcriptions Crown Copyright, www.NationalArchives.gov.uk

Ardill,  Bourke/Burke, Bellwood, Bridge, Cain, Church, Cragg,  Dennell, Dunning, Gough, Haslam, Holmes, Jessop, Kidson/Kitson, Knowles, Markwick, Martin, Munden, Nickerson, Robinson,  Seddon, Whittle, Varley & Walpole.

Areas: Yorkshire, Lancashire, Norfolk, Marylebone & Tipperary

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Re: 1901 census look up please Rueben Farmer / Edith Mabel Green
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 19 August 17 22:19 BST (UK) »
Hello

A Jabez GREEN married an Eliza VERNON in 1836 Saint-Mary, Lambeth, Surrey, England (11/AUG/1836)