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Offline Phil Goater

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Family of Alice Tilbury b.Hornsey 1882
« on: Monday 22 May 06 14:48 BST (UK) »
I know that Alice Tilbury was born 14th October 1882 in Hornsey and married James Phillips 21st December 1903 but only have the dates. I'd like to trace her roots if possible.

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Re: Family of Alice Tilbury b.Hornsey 1882
« Reply #1 on: Monday 22 May 06 15:27 BST (UK) »
Hello, Phil,

Have you tried to find the birth & marriage entries for Alice Tilbury in the Civil BMD Registration indexes, as you have the dates for both.  ?

The marriage cert will give you her father's name & the birth cert will give you both her father's name & mother's maiden name, which will help you on your way to finding her roots.

To give you a jump start I found the following>>

Birth
Alice Tilbury
Dec   1882  Ware  3a  370

Marriage
James Phillips  = Alice TILBRY (  as shown in index)
Dec 1903  Edmonton  3a  678

1891 census
RG12/1092  folio 104  page 16
New River Cottage, Hoddesdon

William Tilbury  age 35   gen Lab.  b Stratford St Mary, Suffolk
Harriett  wife age 33      b  Essex Dedham
William  son  age 12   undergardener  b  Middsx Wood Green
Alice  dau   age 8     b   Hoddesdon
Elizabeth   age 6     b     ditto
Elsie L.  dau  age 8 mths  b   ditto

I have not as yet been to find her in the 1901 census.

Hope this helps

Meliora



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Re: Family of Alice Tilbury b.Hornsey 1882
« Reply #2 on: Monday 22 May 06 20:28 BST (UK) »
Thank you Meliora.
I have come across references to an Alice Tilbury born 1882 linked with a William Tilbury born Marylebone, London 1859/60 who married either Clara Beer or Annie Hobbs in 1882. Could you eliminate him from my enquiries by checking him out in the 1891 census for me please?
I note that on the 1901 census index there is listed an Alice Tilbury b.1872 living in Islington. It's the right location - I wonder if the transcriber might have misread the age?

Thanks for your help,
Phil
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Re: Family of Alice Tilbury b.Hornsey 1882
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 23 May 06 14:59 BST (UK) »
Hello, Phil,

I have been trying to find anything in the 1891 census for the William Tilbury b 1859/60 Marylebone who married either Clara Beer or Annie Hobbs in 1882 but could find nothing.  Can you state where you found the references.?

I have found the following that has a Clara with a William Tilbury 1901 census, but I can't help wondering if there is a mistake in the entry.

I followed this family thro' the census years as follows>>

1881 census
RG11/267  folio  108  page 18
128 Drayton Rd, Islington

William Robert Tilbury  age 46  Lithographer(Master) b London
Amelia  wife  age 45    b    ditto
Sydney  son  age 13   b    ditto
Ernest  son  age 10     b    ditto
Kate  dau    age 8       b   ditto
WILLIAM  son  age 20   Lithogpapher  b   ditto

Note..I think this dau Kate is the Amelia K   age 19 in the 1891 census

1891 census
RG12/218   folio 112  page 7
13, Harper Rd., St Andrew & St George, Holborn

William R. Tilbury  Wid.  age 57  Lithographer  b  Paddington
Amelia K.  dau  age 19  Ostrich Feather Curler b  Islington

1901 census
Rg13/246  folio  108  page 18
28, Drayton Rd., Islington

William R.Tilbury  age 66  living on own means b Paddington
CLARA  wife  age 34    b  Surrey, Frindley

Could this Clara be the wife of William Tilbury jnr. ?  I could not find him in the 1901.

I am listing all the entries in the Civil Reg Idexes for Alice Tilbury 1881 - 1883

Alice Mary...June 1881  Hambleton  2a  134
Alice Maud...Sept 1881  Portsea  2b  428
Alice Lily...Sept. 1882  Cartharington 2a  131
Alice Martha... Sept. 1882  Portsea  2b  536
Alice... Dec 1882  Ware  3a  370
Alice Maud .. Sept. 1883  Croyden  2a  208
Alice.. Dec 1883  Eton  3a  583

Alice born in Ware Dec 1882 is the only one nearest to the district to where she was married Edmonton....  Cheshunt, Enfield, Hornsey, Tottenham, Waltham Abbey are all sub-districts of Edmonton.

I really think that to get any further with your search for her roots you will need at least her marriage cert. to start off with.  This will give you a deifinite name for her father & his occupation with her age & an address, hopefully, for the 1901 census.  Then follow this up with the birth cert. that will give both the parent's names so you can make a definitle search for their marriage.    At the moment trying to find any info from unsure references is a bit like looking for the proverbial neelde.

Certs. can be ordered on line at.

www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificate/index.asp#0

There is a wait at the moment of about 3 weeks for certs to be sent out.

When you have further info. post it in Rootschat & we can take it from there.  At the  moment there is a 14 free trial on www.ancestry.co.uk so you may like to try to search this yourself.

Good hunting.

Meliora.
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Re: Family of Alice Tilbury b.Hornsey 1882
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 24 May 06 15:10 BST (UK) »
Hello, Phil,

I have managed to track the entry in the 1901 census for the Alice Tilbury born 1872 in Islington that you wondered if the age had been mistranscribed.

1901 census
Rg13/171  folio 143  page 36
10, Smith Rd. Islington

John Henry Tilbury  age 28    Coal Porter  b   Middsx
Alice Maud  wife  age 29     b  Islington
Rose Glaniolle  dau   age 1   b    Holloway.

Hope this helps

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Re: Family of Alice Tilbury b.Hornsey 1882
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 24 May 06 15:41 BST (UK) »
Thank you very much Meliora for all your efforts I can now see Ware I'm going!

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Re: Family of Alice Tilbury b.Hornsey 1882
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 24 May 06 16:26 BST (UK) »
Well Meliora this must have taken you forever,
super sleuth.

 

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