In case anyone is interested I have now confirmed the presence of 2 John Hornblow in London around the same time both with wives Elizabeth. The explanation goes thus.
Rev John Hornblow and his wife Elizabeth Young nominated as family 1 because i have done extensive research into his family.
The other John Hornblow and Elizabeth Archer I have not researched beyond him nominated Family 2.
When I began researching 10 or 12 years ago I made an enquiry to Braintree Baptist Church and received from them Rev John Hornblow's obituary and a 1906 article about him.
John Hornblow and Elizabeth Archer were married in 1780 in Westminster and lived in Piccadilly parish where he was a Coal Dealer.
He paid rates in Westminster between 1780 & 1815. This is all verifiable on FindMyPast in this case for Westminster from 1780 onwards until 1815 .
He was a coal dealer in Piccadilly area of London there are dozens of records of his payments and the children attached to this couple were all born in Westminster Piccadilly area.
Westminster Rate Books
1780 1786 Rent £13 Rates 13 & 6/6
Coal Dealer John Hornblow Occupier 3 May 1783 Address Noel Street North
Place St James Piccadilly Parish St James, Piccadilly
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Children
Rhoda Hornblow Bb 17 Aug 1783 in Westminster, London,
Ann Hornblow 2 Dec 1786 in Westminster, London,
Elizabeth 12 May 1790 in Westminster,
Thomas Charles Hornblow 16 Jun 1792 in Westminster,
William Hornblow 17 Mar 1794 in Westminster,
John Hornblow 16 Jun 1792 in Westminster,
The Reverend John Hornblow Baptist Minister of Braintree Family 1 left London in 1779 for Braintree.
His Mother Mary Mee was buried St Andrew Anglican Church Halstead 19 Nov 1789 National Burial Index For England & Wales
Jeronimo buried St Andrew Halstead 28 Jan 1797 St Andrew Anglican Church Halstead
His obit stated (Rev)John Hornblow born 1744 came from Halstead & in 1760 was apprenticed in London. In 2017 I found in FindMyPast a 1760 apprentice record showing he was from Halstead , near Braintree son of Jeramiah ( Jeronimo) Hornblow of Halstead , a malster .
The entry in the Haberdashers Court records show that in 1760 John Hornblow was apprenticed to John Rushton of Redcross Square Jewen Street –which is off Aldersgate Street.
He would have been about 15 or 16 years old . John completed his apprenticeship and 1769 . He began taking apprentices in 1772.
The 1775 marriage entry for John Hornblow & Elizabeth Young shows he live in St Alphage parish which is close to St Giles Cripplegate where their first child was born and died of convulsions in 1776. Lived in Cripplegate area by London Wall.
They could not be married in a Baptist church so they chose St Georges in Botolph Lane within the city wall in Botolph Lane close to Pudding Lane which is close to Goodmans Fields where the Young family lived in Mansell Street . They were cabinet makers, furniture makers.
The Young Family were also non conformists as shown by the the registration of their children rather than baptisms. The entry for the family of John More and his wife Rachel Ridley, made in 1756 , shows Rachel born 1749, son Ridley born 1751 then Elizabeth born 1753 and twins Mary & John born 1756.
Their 1st child John was buried in St Giles Cripplegate - Maidenhead Court in the close to AlderSgate Street. He later moved his workshop to Phillips lane near St Alphage 1778 John still working as a looking Glass Frame Maker .
Other children must have been born and died young between 1777-1782 - a 5 year period, for they were commented upon by Dr Perrott in Braintree in 1779 who remarked on the size of Johns family and the smallness of his purse.
1779 John’s was ordained on 15th July 1779 and given the Braintree ministry moved to Braintree, Essex
1. 1776 John Hornblow died of convulsions as an infant buried at St Giles without Criplegate London
2 1777 Rachel born in London?? Died age 22 unmarried in 1799 buried Bocking
3. 1782 John born & apprentice 1797 age 15 apprenticed to William Spencer 6 Apr 1797, Grocers' Company
4 1783 Anne born baptised 1804 age 21 Married 1804 in Bocking to Stephen Brown. FindMyPast- Boyd's
5 1784 Jeremiah ?
6 1785 Mary born . She died and was buried 19 Nov 1789 in Bocking FindMyPast
7 1789 Sarah born Feb. Married 4 times and in 1820 & one of the Settlers in the Eastern Cape of South Africa with her 2nd 'husband' John Cadle. She died SA 1853- Died age 54 1843
8 1790 William baptised age 12 in 1802 at St. Michael the Archangel Braintree. William died 1798 buried Braintree
9. 1791 Jeronimo born -died age 4 on 22 Feb 1795. Burial 26 Feb 1795 buried at the Protestant Dessenters burial ground at Bocking
10. 1794 Lydia married to 7 March 1814 to Edward Hayward of Saffron Walden,FindMyPast & Boyds
11. 1795 Hannah baptised age 21 in 1816 shortly before her marriage Married to Lloyd Henry Standish on 23 Aug 1816 St Lukes Old Street Finsbury FindMyPast England Parish records 1538-1973 Parish records
There is an Ebenezer son of John Hornblow deceased apprenticed by patrimony to Ebenezer Hornblow silversmith in Southwark in 1820. However if boys were apprenticed at 12 to 15 then he would have been born about 1805 which makes him an unlikely son of Rev John for, although his wife Elizabeth Young was 10 years her husbands junior, she would have been 52 in 1805.
An Ebenezer Hornblow did witness the 2nd marriage of Sarah Hornblow ( Moore) when she married John Cadle in Deptford in 1816.
