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Armstrong/Beattie Canonbie Area
« on: Friday 26 May 06 16:46 BST (UK) »
Hello All,

I now know that my family are associated with the  Armstrongs of Tarcoon (Torcoon Turcoon) Canonbie. (After much research I have now disproved this theory and know my Armstrongs are not connected to the Torcoon Armstrongs. :'( )

Here is the family:-
 
Robert Armstrong born about 1783
Agnes Armstrong nee Beattie born ???
Married Caononbie 1827

Their Family
William b 1827
John b 1828
Simon b 1832
Robert b 1833
Andre b 1838
Margaret b 1841
Agnes b 1846
All born Canonbie Dumfries.

I would be particularly interested if anyone is associated with the Armstrong or Beattie Family to get in touch as I have found no one else researching these. Thank you.
Judy
CUMBERLAND  Armstrong Little Nixon Richardson Pearson Watson Braithwait
WESTMORLAND  Richardson Dent Nicholson Hanson Kersey/Casey Smith Heigh
DURHAM Reed Smith Reay Hammond Metcalf Bell
Thompson Armstrong Branford Parkin Heaton Oates
NORTHUMB'LAND Nixon Johnson Armstrong Branford Thompson
DUMFRIES Armstrong Bell Halliday Carruthers Johnstone
YORKS Richardson Branford Siddle
ROXBURGH Jackson Elliot Armstrong Scott
FIFE Adamson Gosman Brown
AUSTRALIA Richardson Dent Hanson Kersey

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Re: Armstrong/Beattie Canonbie Area
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 23 December 06 16:14 GMT (UK) »
It is nearly 7 months since you posted the above and you may well have since moved on  :)  but I hope it helps.  I don't think you have it as you did not mention the earlier names.

The following is a transcription of a memorial in Canonbie:-
No.315
In memory of William Armstrong, son of William Armstrong in Blackrigg who died August 22nd 1791 in the 4th year of his age.  Also above William Armstrong who died May 21st 1814 aged 56 years.  Also Margaret Hogg spouse to above William Armstrong who died September 29th 1840 aged 81 years.  Also John Armstrong their son who died in Jamaica October 23rd <> aged 20 years.  Also Agnes Beattie the wife of Robert Armstrong who died at Torcoon 20th June 1845 aged 43 years.  Also above Robert Armstrong who died 25th June 1855 aged 73 years. 

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Re: Armstrong/Beattie Canonbie Area
« Reply #2 on: Friday 29 December 06 17:08 GMT (UK) »
I too am deep in  the Armstrongs of Canonbie and it is a daunting task.  My Great grandfather Armstrong was married to an Armstrong as was his father, grandfather and ggrandfather.  I have been able to trace the males but am at a bit of a loss with the wives as they are called Margaret , Elizabeth and Isabella but then so are dozens of others.  I have come up against the Armstrongs of Torcoon but only at a distance so far. They are also tied in with another branch of my family the Elliots who also farmed in that area. 
If you feel that I might be able to help do let me know as I am pretty familiar with the area and have many relatives who still farm around Torcoon.
I fear that the Armstrongs is a life time's job but there was an interesting and sad  happening this year when the last of the Armstrongs gave up farming in Dumfriesshire. An amazing decline in about 50 years.
My branch of the family died out about 25 years ago when the last male named Armstrong died. There are still several female descendants.
Regards
Alan
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Re: Armstrong/Beattie Canonbie Area
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 04 January 07 16:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi Alan,
Thanks for your reply.

I have Armstrongs from Bewcastle too and you are right when you say it is a daunting job tracing them. Also found one in Liddesdale, Rox so that is 3 lots.

However back to Robert Armstrong. I now know that although my G Grandmother Agnes Jackson/Armstrong was born  illegitimate at Torcoon in 1855 that Robert Armstrong who lived at Torcoon was NOT the father as I had thought. In double checking I found he had emigrated to America before she was even conceived!!

So back to the Census's to the other likely Robert Armstrong's as Agnes's Father.
By the process of elimination I have come to the conclusion that it is a ROBERT ARMSTRONG born CANONBIE in or around 1831. His is in the 1841 Census at Barrascrofts Outhouse as 10 years old and an Ag Lab. In the 1851 Census he is at Perterburn as farm servant 20 years old and is missing from the 1861 Census. He was a servant at Orchard in 1854.

I can not find who his parents are at all or what happened to him.

There is a Robert Armstrong who is born 1832 in Canonbie but he is a Mason & that is the wrong one.

Any help or ideas on this would be gratefully received by anyone.

Judy
CUMBERLAND  Armstrong Little Nixon Richardson Pearson Watson Braithwait
WESTMORLAND  Richardson Dent Nicholson Hanson Kersey/Casey Smith Heigh
DURHAM Reed Smith Reay Hammond Metcalf Bell
Thompson Armstrong Branford Parkin Heaton Oates
NORTHUMB'LAND Nixon Johnson Armstrong Branford Thompson
DUMFRIES Armstrong Bell Halliday Carruthers Johnstone
YORKS Richardson Branford Siddle
ROXBURGH Jackson Elliot Armstrong Scott
FIFE Adamson Gosman Brown
AUSTRALIA Richardson Dent Hanson Kersey

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Re: Armstrong/Beattie Canonbie Area
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 04 January 07 17:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi Judy
I have no Robert Armstrong yet but, as I said in my last posting I have still to get down to the female Armstrong's in my family and who knows where that may take me as there is one in about every generation of all of the families in my Dumfriesshire trees.  They are married to Elliots of Archerbeck Canonbie and of Castleton, Rox; they are part of the Stodarts in Middlebie; the Romes of Holywood and Canonbie as well as their numerous intermarriages in Canonbie and Middlebie.
It would be great to tease out a few more of them but it will take time and the publication of more of the Census reports - Scotland's people is quite good but it is like a taxi meter on a very long run.
Will keep you posted as I find out more.
Alan
Mitchell, Stodart/Stothart, Armstrong, Porteous (Dumfriesshire), Taylor, Lindsay, Auld, (Ayrshire)

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Re: Armstrong/Beattie Canonbie Area
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 04 January 07 17:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi Guys,

The Canonbie Armstrongs touched my family.  It's not overly helpful but a Mary ARMSTRONG married George CLAPPERTON who was the son of James Clapperton and Margaret TELFORD.

When I was searching for other graves I found another grave with CLAPPERTON and ARMSTRONG marriages.  One photo is below...

All the best,
Pam
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Midlothian: Linn/d, Aitken, Martin
North Wales: Robins(on), Hughes, Parry, Jones
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Re: Armstrong/Beattie Canonbie Area
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 04 January 07 21:16 GMT (UK) »
Thank you both for the replies and the photos.

I have Elliots in my family tree too. From Castleton.
Jean or Jane Elliot born 1762 Sorbitees, Castleton her father was Adam Elliot.
Jean married  Simon Jackson of Castleton.

I agree about Scotlands People - I find it just too expensive.

If either of you come accross anything would be grateful

Judy
CUMBERLAND  Armstrong Little Nixon Richardson Pearson Watson Braithwait
WESTMORLAND  Richardson Dent Nicholson Hanson Kersey/Casey Smith Heigh
DURHAM Reed Smith Reay Hammond Metcalf Bell
Thompson Armstrong Branford Parkin Heaton Oates
NORTHUMB'LAND Nixon Johnson Armstrong Branford Thompson
DUMFRIES Armstrong Bell Halliday Carruthers Johnstone
YORKS Richardson Branford Siddle
ROXBURGH Jackson Elliot Armstrong Scott
FIFE Adamson Gosman Brown
AUSTRALIA Richardson Dent Hanson Kersey

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Re: Armstrong/Beattie Canonbie Area
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 22 May 11 17:50 BST (UK) »
Agnes ARMSTRONG married William GRAHAM of Knottyholme about 1758 and had seven children in Thornethwaite, Knottyholme, and Canonbie.
Who are Agnes parents and where Agnes or her parents are from? I am also looking for a marriage.
Unfortunately, as William is a common name, I do not have Williams' birth or parents' names.
This is during the time of the Jacobites and Coventers.
I am having a hard time tracing my tree and maybe this is why?
Can anyone help?
Thanks,
Razzy
Laure (France);
Graham (Cumberland, England/Grahamsfield, Scotland), Taylor (Orkney);
Rogan, Johnston, McKinney, Irwin, Hamilton (Ireland);
Masters (Wiltshire, England).
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Re: Armstrong/Beattie Canonbie Area
« Reply #8 on: Monday 23 May 11 09:37 BST (UK) »
Don't know anything about your Agnes - sorry.

Armstrong's are really difficult to sort out. If you don't get anywhere have you thought about joining the Armstrong Clan Association as they have  a vast amount of resourses and are very helpful and you may find other people reseaching the same family.

Judy
CUMBERLAND  Armstrong Little Nixon Richardson Pearson Watson Braithwait
WESTMORLAND  Richardson Dent Nicholson Hanson Kersey/Casey Smith Heigh
DURHAM Reed Smith Reay Hammond Metcalf Bell
Thompson Armstrong Branford Parkin Heaton Oates
NORTHUMB'LAND Nixon Johnson Armstrong Branford Thompson
DUMFRIES Armstrong Bell Halliday Carruthers Johnstone
YORKS Richardson Branford Siddle
ROXBURGH Jackson Elliot Armstrong Scott
FIFE Adamson Gosman Brown
AUSTRALIA Richardson Dent Hanson Kersey