Brownlow Hill, Liverpool

[colette]

Hi i have the birth cert of my father in law and it says 144a Brownlow Hill.
He was definatly born at the infirmary i even have the admission records for his mother the day before and for him 6th Jan 1922, his mother has a totaly different address she lived at Circus St.

As you have the date hopfuly someone who is going to the records office could get you the copies, someone got mine for me a few years ago.
Doesnt cost much just the photocopys they are a few pence.

Colette

[colette]

http://www.mersey-gateway.org/server.php?show=conMediaFile.8234

Heres a Photograph of the Brownlow Hill Infirmary

Colette

[colette]

Hi again just checked my 1911 Directory and there was the Liverpool Royal Infirmary on Pembroke Place, but if he was born there why would his birth cert say 144a Brownlow Hill.
And the Picture i have also says the Brownlow Hill Infirmary.

Wouldnt the address have been Pembroke Place.
His mother was not in the Workhouse she was a Photographer by proffession and she lived on Circus St.

Colette

[Daffodilly]

Colette/Gareth, I have found another site that may help:

http://www.mersey-gateway.org/server.php?show=ConNarrative.179

The bit that is relevant is this:

"After much disagreement between the years 1879 and 1882 it was decided to separate the gynaecological and maternity work of the Hospital. As a result a new Lying-in (maternity) Hospital was built on a site at the corner of Brownlow Hill and Brownlow Street. This was completed in November 1884 and opened to patients in February 1885. The hospital stayed in these premises until a move to a new building in Oxford Street. The foundation stone of the Oxford Street hospital was laid in March 1924 and it was officially opened in September 1926. From this time onwards it was known as the Liverpool Maternity Hospital."

So, was the hospital (Infirmary) on part of the Workhouse land so had the same address?  I am interested having worked in some of the Liverpool hospitals years ago and I must have walked past the Brownlow Hill site so often.  I wish I lived nearer as I would go and see where it was.  The workhouse didn't close until 1931 so these buildings must have been there at the same time.  We need someone who new old Liverpool well.

Babies were also delivered at the Royal Infirmary as I remember my driving instructor tellling me he was, so it is all a bit confusing!  Too many hospitals too close together!

Colette, it might explain why your father in law was born at the workhouse but his mother wasn't in the workhouse.

I am not sure if I have helped or caused more confusion - I didn't mean too!

Daff

[garethgriffiths]

Hello folks,
In my case for Margaret Catherine Owens I have to note her mothers address as stated on her birth cert which was given as 49 Limekiln Lane, i.e. she lived there then went into the infirmary at 144a Brownlow Hill to have the baby.

In a manner somwhat similar to the former i.e. Colette's 'Circus Street' situation, I would still be inclined as advised to go for the admissions documents from Liverpool RO before I decide but I must admit I do favour it was just a short stay at 144a.

Given it was 1909 and the advent of electricity being installed on a wider scale and the fact that the baby's father being employed as an eletric light installer then one assumes that he was in work, probably with plenty of it.

I suppose the answer to Daff's point will be in a book somewhere?
Thanks Gareth

[Christopher]

Hi everyone,

There's a strong Irish interest in the Brownlow Hill Infirmary and Workhouse. Despite Agnes Jones, the first trained Nursing Superintendent at the Infirmary, being born in Cambridge, the daughter of a wealthy father with a career in the military which took the family to Mauritius and then found them settled in Fahan, Co. Donegal two Co. Donegal women, Mary Devlin and Margaret McGrath, with assistance from Joe Cassidy and Mike Kelly, from Vauxhall, Liverpool started the Agnes Jones Project around 2002. Their plan is to establish a Heritage Centre in County Donegal which will acknowledge her life and work. Agnes, a Florence Nightingale trained nurse, arrived in Liverpool in 1865 at the request of William Rathbone to care for the sick and dying in the Workhouse Hospital in Brownlow Hill. Thirty five year old Agnes died of typhus fever in 1868.

Florence Nightingale described  the achivevments of Agnew and her staff at the Infirmary in these words ...
"In less than three years she had reduced one of the most disorderly hospital populations in the world to something like Christian discipline, such as the police themselves wondered at .."

Keen readers may like to beg, borrow or purchase a copy of Felicity McCall's book "Agnes Jones" which was published by Guildhall Press in 2006 and is beautifully illustrated by Derry artist Joe Campbell. It includes images and extracts from the stage play by Handful Productions as well as images from the film "Agnes" by Ambient Light Productions and Greater Shantallow Community Arts.

Christopher

[garstonite]

just some info for gareth and anyone else interested in liverpool in particular....if you google
yoliverpool     you can go to specific areas of liverpool for more detailed info on that area....hope this helps...regards...allan

[johneowens]

http://www.mersey-gateway.org/server.php?show=conMediaFile.8234

Heres a Photograph of the Brownlow Hill Infirmary

Colette

Hi Colette

Unfortunately, this link no longer works.

Does anyone know of a pic of the Brownlow Hill Infirmary/Brownlow Hill Lying-in (Maternity) Hospital in Brownlow Street?

Many thanks and best wishes

John

[stanmapstone]

Have a look at http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Liverpool/ there is a photograph of the infirmary.

Stan