Shipsmiths - Smith family from Kelton, Dumfries - Lookup?

[sammidav]

Hi All,
Thanks for the information and pointing out the two Keltons!
I think I now have it straight in my head - using the ship building link- and I think it in in Dumfriesshire and not Kircudbright.

'New ships were continually being built at the villages of Glencaple and Kelton on the Nith, and at Palnackie and Kippford on the Urr. The hulls only were completed at these places in some cases, and I believe that vessels were masted and rigged at Irvine, in Ayrshire,  quite frequently, after being towed round the coast.

In addition to those mentioned above, some fine schooners were built in the river at the Kelton Yard and at the extensive premises of Messrs G. and R. Thompson, of Glencaple.'

There seems to be a parish of Kelton (Kelton Hill/Rhonehouse) near Castle Douglas which is in Kircudbright
and a second village of kelton where the ships are made which is down river from Dumfries. I am therefore convinced that it is the Dumfries lcoation I am looking for.
This seems to be opposite to the New Abbey Parish and Troqueer parish of http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/KKD/kkdpmap.htm

and possibly in either Dumfires parish or Caerlaverock  parish
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/DFS/parish_map.html
I may need a better map to figure out the specific parish!

Please move this back to Dumfriesshire!

Thanks,
Samantha

[Boongie Pam]

Hmmm I'm still not convinced there are 2 Keltons. (I am now!  )

I'm quite at home with the Dumfriesshire parishes and I know the Dumfries/Troqueer boundary can be a pain so I'm leaving this in Kirkcudbright at the moment but I will search fro maps as well. (Shows you what I know!  )

Pam

[Boongie Pam]

I've checked out www.old-map.co.uk and there are 2 hits one for Kelton DFS and one for Kelton KKD.  The DFS one is just north of "North Boreland" the Kelton still in existance today linked by Arranroots if you zoom in to 25000:1 is north of a "Boreland" so I think they are the same place.

The question - is it Dumfriesshire or Kirkcudbright - it is right on the border!

Well Glencaple is in Caerlaverock...

Back to the map!

[Gadget]

When they said  Kelton, Dumfries they were probably refering to the place you've found Pam rather than the parish - but will we ever know - If we could find what Old Parish the DFS one is in and search on that one 

Gadget

[Boongie Pam]

Kelton, a village on the mutual border of Dumfries and Caerlaverock parishes, Dumfriesshire, on the left bank of the Nith, 3½ miles SSE of Dumfries. It is an out-port of Dumfries for vessels unable to go further up the river; and it has carried on a small amount of shipbuilding.

So I'm moving back to Dumfriesshire...

[Gadget]

I'm starting to feel sea sick - did you get which parish?

[Gadget]

DUMFRIES, a parish on the south-west border of Dumfries-shire. It contains the royal burgh of Dumfries, the villages of Georgeton, Gaston, Locharbriggs, and Lochthorn, and part of the village of Kelton. It is bounded on the west by Kirkcudbrightshire, and on other sides by the parishes of Holywood, Kirkmahoe, Tinwald, Torthorwald, and Caerlaverock." from the Imperial Gazetteer of Scotland, edited by John Marius Wilson, 1868.

From Genuki pages.

So the parish was Dumfries.

Gadget

[Boongie Pam]

I can't get anything more specific than "mutual border of Dumfries and Caerlaverock parishes".

I've been through Dumfries census numerous times and I don't think this area is covered there - but I can check tomorrow when I get home.

Caerlaverock - not sure?  I reckon whereever you find Glencaple you'll find Kelton listed.

P

[Boongie Pam]

From your quote it says "part of" Kelton is in Dumfries.

It looks split to me.

P