1851, 1861, 1871 Brecknock census lookups

[Mickytom]

Hi guys

Further to previous postings under this heading, I THINK I have now located the baptism of Thomas GRIFFITHS, hopefully my g-g-g-grandfather, in the parish of Clifford, Herefordshire, in February 1814 to a James and Ann GRIFFITHS. Having searched a good many years either side of 1814 in the parish register for Clifford, however, I have been unable to find any trace of any further events connected with this family. This leads me to suspect that they may have moved from and to the Welsh side of the border, as this is where most of the other family events detailed on the various censuses seem to have taken place. On the assumption that James and Ann may have been born, say, in the 1790s, they may still have been alive at the time of the 1841 census, and possibly even 1851. Is anyone able to find them on either one in the area around, say, Hay/Llanigon/Glasbury/Talgarth/Felindre?

Many thanks.

Mike   

[osprey]

I can see many possibles within a slightly larger area so hoping something here looks ok to you.
1841 Cross, Bryngwyn, Radnorshire H0107/1456/2 folio 6 pg 7
James Griffiths 59 ag lab
Ann 50
Ann 8
Jhon(sic) 1
all born in county

1851 Cross H0107/2491 folio 196 pg 12
James Griffiths head widower 69 farm labourer
James Mainwaring son in law 34 receiving weekly pay blind
Mary Mainwaring dau 33
William gson 7
Sarah gdau 4
James gson 1
Ann Griffiths dau 20 house servant
all born Bryngwyn

1841 Moity, Llowes, Radnorshire H0107/1456/10 folio 8 pg 11
James Griffiths 67 not born in county
Ann 59 born in county

1841 Blackoak, Llanbedr Painscastle H0107/1456/6 folio 4 pg 2
Anne Griffiths 60 independent
James 25
Henry 22
Maryanne 20
David 15
Thomas ? 5 visitor crossed out ( not sure what his surname is, Griffiths might be dittoed, but it just looks like a squiggle and he is a separate household )
all born county apart from poor little Thomas

1851 Dyffryn Fawr, H0107/2491 folio 172 pg 5
Henry Griffiths head unm 35 drover b. Painscastle
Anne 70 retired widow b. Bryngwyn
plus others different surnames

1841 Cwm Tither(?), Hay H0107/1370/11 folio 6 pg 23
Ann Griffiths 60 not born in county

1841 Llyswen village H10107/1370/20 folio 5 pg 5
James Griffiths 45 ag lab
Ann 15
both born in county
Mary Jones 35 fs not born in county

Bladawern, Heyop H0107/1455/5 folio 11 pg 5
James Griffiths 55 weaver
Charlotte 30
Mary 20
James and mary both born in county, Charlotte not.

same address in 1851 H0107/2492 folio 139 pg 2
James Griffiths head 64 weaver b. Heyop

1851 High St, Presteigne Ho107/2492 folio 458 pg 7
Ann Griffiths head widow 71 annuitant b. Beguildy(?)
William son unm 41 draper b. Presteigne
Elizabeth dau unm 28 b. Presteigne
Ann gdau 2 b. Presteigne
Jane Griffiths visitor 73 laundress b. Brecon, Llanworthey
William Wilson visitor 33 tanner b. Durham, Tweedmouth(?)
Thomas Rowlands visitor 39 carpenter b. Pembridge, Hereford
 

[Mickytom]

Thanks, Osprey, certainly some food for thought! Am off to Powys county archives this week to further research several branches of my family tree. Will hopefully find the time then to look further into the Griffithses.

Mike

[Mickytom]

Hi guys!

Sorry to be a pain, but further to the last few postings on this strand, I've now paid a further visit to the Herefordshire county archives and uncovered another possibility for the baptism of my g-g-g-grandfather, Thomas GRIFFITHS, this time in Cusop in January 1810 to a William and Mary GRIFFITHS. There also appear to be baptismal records in Cusop for siblings William, also in 1810 (!), John in 1811 and Mary in 1814. I am currently weighing up the possibilities of either of the Thomas Griffithses born in Clifford or Cusop being my ancestor, as both place names appear in later census returns, but is anyone able to locate either the parents or any of the siblings in the census returns for, say, Herefordshire, Breconshire or Radnorshire in 1841 or later?

Thanks again.

Mike