1851 Gelligaer census - Complete

[Mickytom]

Hi chaps

Does anyone out there have access to the FULL 1851 census for Gelligaer? I'm looking for a family by the name of RICHARDS who may possibly be in the village of Pantywaun, near Dowlais Top: husband and wife John and Martha and children John, Mary and Jenkin.

Any hopes?

Mike T 

Moderator comment: previous message in title was put there & removed by me - don;t worry!!

[Arranroots]

Hi Mike

Not sure what you mean by the full census, but could you supply some ages/ birthplaces - maybe a later census, please?

kind regards, Arranroots 


Modified: found more info here -

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,163927.msg783418.html#msg783418

[Mickytom]

Hi

From a reply to one of my other topics, it seems as if the Ancestry 1851 Gelligaer census starts at enumeration district 3; were there, in fact, districts 1 & 2?

Anyway, I don't have an age for John Richards in 1861, but Martha is aged 42, son John 17, Mary 14, Jenkin 12 and three younger children, Thomas 7, Sarah 5 and Rhoda 2. In 1871, John is shown as 62, Martha 50, with the three younger children, Thomas 18, Sarah 15 and Rhoda 13.

Thanks for your help once again

Mike T 

[rhys]

Hello Mike
I do not think any of Gelligaer is missing in 1851
The 2457 area consisted of .
 Llanwonno Ed`s  1a - 1f
 Llanfabon             2a- 2c
 Gelligaer               3a- 7b

The following may be your family in Dowlais Top
with Jenkin transcribed as a second son John.
John Richards sen was listed as aged 43 in 1861.

Rhys

1851 MERTHYR TYDFIL UPPER

2459  f 52 p 48

TOP OF DOWLAIS

 RICHARDS JOHN HD M 30 COAL MINER GLA GELLIGAER

 RICHARDS MARTHA WI M 30 - GLA MERTHYR TYDFIL

 RICHARDS JOHN SO - 7 - GLA DOWLAIS

 RICHARDS MARY DA - 4 - GLA DOWLAIS

 PROSSER ELIZA LG U 19 SERVANT GLA SWANSEA

 RICHARDS JOHN SO - 6M - GLA DOWLAIS

 WATKINS JOHN LG U 20 COAL MINER GLA DOWLAIS

 JONES THOMAS LG U 26 COAL MINER MON NANTYGLO

[Mickytom]

Nice work, Rhys, as always! Everything looks OK. The only thing that was worrying me was the discrepancy in John's age on the 1871 census...........by about a decade! However, I think I've now possibly located John and Martha, both aged 62, on the 1881 Gelligaer census, living at 35 Cross Keys. Looks likely, therefore, that the age of 62 detailed for him in 1871 could possibly have been a mis-transcription?

Regards

Mike 

[rhys]

Hi
 I have looked at the 1871 image and John appears to be aged 52 not 62
Rhys

[Mickytom]

Aha!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

[Arranroots]

OK if I take off the message criticising myself now, Mike??

Sorry that this seems to have backfired & people are thinking you put it there!! 

My idea entirely - I will try to think harder next time, LOL!

A 

[Mickytom]

Yup! OK by me!

MT