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Re: Sutherland family Caithness 1841 & 1851 census lookup plse
« Reply #18 on: Monday 04 September 06 00:15 BST (UK) »
There is an entry on IGI for the following marriage:

ARCHIBALD COOK SUTHERLAND  Marriages: Spouse: BARBARA MUNRO    
Marriage:  07 DEC 1865  Lairg, Sutherland, Scotland

By the way, our favorite couple to be Christina's parents both came from Sutherland.
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Re: Sutherland family Caithness 1841 & 1851 census lookup plse
« Reply #19 on: Monday 04 September 06 00:42 BST (UK) »
Thanks again Monica,
That was my first thought too that Archibald Cook may have come from the mcLauchlans but then I began to think perhaps it was Sutherland after William & Christina's 1st boy died William Sutherland & naming their last son William Archibald Cook.

William McLauchlan (Christina's husband)  was born 3rd June 1836 in Pomarium West Church Parish, Perth, fourth child of John McLauchlan(born 1801, Dunkeld, Perth) ploughman & Margery Mills/Milne  born Cargill ,his spouse. He was baptised six day later by Rev. Dr. William Aird Thomson, minister of Middle Church Parish, Perth. He had a brother John born 1828 two sisters Ann b. 1825 & Mey b. 1831. In 1839 James was born.
1831 family lived at Hillyland NE Perth. 1836 lived Friarton or Moncrieffe Island in the River Tay. In 1851 in Evelick, Parish of Kilspendie, Perthshire listed:
John McLauchlan (snr) Head widower 48yrs. Farm Labourer
May      daughter     18yrs
James   son              12yrs scholar.

William came to New Zealand on the Cornubia 1855 Lyttelton with his father, sister Ann, husband & 3 children, & James. John had come out around 1851. Mey arrived later with her husband, 2children in 1857 "Glentanner".
RE: Christina & Williams marriage cert. they were both full age, no parents mentioned. Witness James Sutherland, Farmer, Selwyn. when & where married 4 june 1868 House of Mr Sutherland South Town Belt. Death cert had parents names.
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Caithness: Sutherland (2 families)
Perthshire: McLauchlan, Galletly. Dunn. Mill 
Glasgow: Paisley: Gilmour; Fillans
Orkney: Shearer, Peace, Laughton,Scott,Craigie, Sinclair, Tulloch, Spence, Laing
Devon: Moore, Gempton, Copp, Boone, Carter, Lee, Gill,
London:  Laver, Rix, Nightingale,Hartley, Mason,Satchell.
Nottingham: Bomforth, Shaw
Australia: Graham, Tattersall, Galletly
Ireland: Angland

N.Z: McLauchlan, Sutherland, Shearer,  Rix, Moore, Hartley,Mason, Gilmour, Bomforth,  Dunn, Galletly

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Re: Sutherland family Caithness 1841 & 1851 census lookup plse
« Reply #20 on: Monday 04 September 06 00:53 BST (UK) »
Hi Monica. me again.
 (1)John, William's brother was named after their father John McL.
 (2) William's mother was Marjery (May/Mey) Mills or Milne both spellings on baptism records.
Whats that!!! Incredible!! Parents came from Sutherland. Belong to HH-Suth where none have been able to come up with anything concrete , certainly not from lack of trying & here you are with Sutherland.
Oh Boy, this site you gave me.
Yipee!!
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Caithness: Sutherland (2 families)
Perthshire: McLauchlan, Galletly. Dunn. Mill 
Glasgow: Paisley: Gilmour; Fillans
Orkney: Shearer, Peace, Laughton,Scott,Craigie, Sinclair, Tulloch, Spence, Laing
Devon: Moore, Gempton, Copp, Boone, Carter, Lee, Gill,
London:  Laver, Rix, Nightingale,Hartley, Mason,Satchell.
Nottingham: Bomforth, Shaw
Australia: Graham, Tattersall, Galletly
Ireland: Angland

N.Z: McLauchlan, Sutherland, Shearer,  Rix, Moore, Hartley,Mason, Gilmour, Bomforth,  Dunn, Galletly

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Re: Sutherland family Caithness 1841 & 1851 census lookup plse
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 19 September 06 14:46 BST (UK) »
Hi Ostler

I'm carrying on today with a Sutherland theme!

I've found your William age 6 in the 1851 Census living at home with parents Angus age 45 and mother Janet age 35, all showing as born in Berriedale.  If you PM me with an email address, happy to send you further details.

Regards.

Monica
This is the first of me coming across this... thanks! Is there something up with the board? I'm not getting notifications of new posts to threads it seems... PM on its way. ;)
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Kinnes, Ostler (and all variations!!)

Scotland
Caithness: Sutherland and Gunn (Latheron), Mowat (Olrig, Canisbay)
Fife: Fleming, Harley, Small, Laing, Malcolm
Angus/Forfarshire: Small, Laing (Dundee)
Perthshire: Runciman, Whittet, Paul, Small
Midlothian: Dudgeon, Sanderson (Tranent)

England
Gloucestershire: Edkins, Trowton/Troughton
Warwickshire: Bromley, Vickers, Hydon


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Re: Sutherland family Caithness 1841 & 1851 census lookup plse
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 30 December 06 04:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi Monica, Sorry to be a bug bear but seem to be no further ahead.
Do you think it might be worthwhile to pay someone to search her relatives for me. Have been trying so long with such marvellous help espec. from you & Ian Sutherland & great members of   rootschat & genenesreunited & former Highlandhearts  members am beginning to think this brick wall is insurmountable. Drat!!! Drat!!!. Written to Dunbeath Heritage, left messages on Caithness org. plus so many other sites since I started can't remember them all.... wihout success.
Will find her siblings etc eventually but hope time is on my side.
Cheers Tiffaney.
Caithness: Sutherland (2 families)
Perthshire: McLauchlan, Galletly. Dunn. Mill 
Glasgow: Paisley: Gilmour; Fillans
Orkney: Shearer, Peace, Laughton,Scott,Craigie, Sinclair, Tulloch, Spence, Laing
Devon: Moore, Gempton, Copp, Boone, Carter, Lee, Gill,
London:  Laver, Rix, Nightingale,Hartley, Mason,Satchell.
Nottingham: Bomforth, Shaw
Australia: Graham, Tattersall, Galletly
Ireland: Angland

N.Z: McLauchlan, Sutherland, Shearer,  Rix, Moore, Hartley,Mason, Gilmour, Bomforth,  Dunn, Galletly

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Re: Sutherland family Caithness 1841 & 1851 census lookup plse
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 04 January 07 00:08 GMT (UK) »
I'm not much further ahead either. However, if Angus' parents are Niel Sutherland and Janet Bain, how can I find out this is true? I've searched on ScotlandsPeople for an Angus Sutherland born between 1800 and 1805 in Latheron and I get nothing (he was born Oct 1803), and if I change the parameters to "All Parishes" but add in his parents name, or even just one, I get nothing. :-\ I've searched for Niel Sutherlands born in Latheron and there was one born in 1767 (making him 36 when Angus was born), and one born in 1778 (making him 25 when Angus was born). How can I tell which one - if any - is the right one? I searched for Neil Sutherlands born before 1803 and there weren't any until about 1730, which is obviously far too early to be Angus' father.

Any help would be appreciated. Even if it's a suggestion of what to do rather than looking for me, I don't mind.
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Scotland
Caithness: Sutherland and Gunn (Latheron), Mowat (Olrig, Canisbay)
Fife: Fleming, Harley, Small, Laing, Malcolm
Angus/Forfarshire: Small, Laing (Dundee)
Perthshire: Runciman, Whittet, Paul, Small
Midlothian: Dudgeon, Sanderson (Tranent)

England
Gloucestershire: Edkins, Trowton/Troughton
Warwickshire: Bromley, Vickers, Hydon

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Re: Sutherland family Caithness 1841 & 1851 census lookup plse
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 04 January 07 00:18 GMT (UK) »
OK bugger it, I gave in and searched for Angus Sutherland on ScotlandsPeople without putting in any parents names, and also limiting it to 1803. I got one result, and his parents are Angus Sutherland and Hellen McKenzie, he was born 1st October 1803 in Clyne. This just adds to the confusion. :'(
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Scotland
Caithness: Sutherland and Gunn (Latheron), Mowat (Olrig, Canisbay)
Fife: Fleming, Harley, Small, Laing, Malcolm
Angus/Forfarshire: Small, Laing (Dundee)
Perthshire: Runciman, Whittet, Paul, Small
Midlothian: Dudgeon, Sanderson (Tranent)

England
Gloucestershire: Edkins, Trowton/Troughton
Warwickshire: Bromley, Vickers, Hydon

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Re: Sutherland family Caithness 1841 & 1851 census lookup plse
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 04 January 07 00:26 GMT (UK) »
The Mormon's site has this Angus:

Born 1 Oct 1803 Brora, Sutherland, Scotland

Died 25 Sep 1892 Brora, Sutherland, Scotland

Parents Angus Sutherland and Helen MacKenzie.

The only thing about this Angus is he has a middle name; Amos. :o

In the same search I got the above Angus Sutherland as being christened on 1 Oct 1803 in Clyne.

Also in the search was an Angus Sutherland christened 8 Oct 1803 in Latheron, with only a father mentioned: Niel Sutherland. ::)

I really don't know what to make of all this. :'(
All countries/counties
Kinnes, Ostler (and all variations!!)

Scotland
Caithness: Sutherland and Gunn (Latheron), Mowat (Olrig, Canisbay)
Fife: Fleming, Harley, Small, Laing, Malcolm
Angus/Forfarshire: Small, Laing (Dundee)
Perthshire: Runciman, Whittet, Paul, Small
Midlothian: Dudgeon, Sanderson (Tranent)

England
Gloucestershire: Edkins, Trowton/Troughton
Warwickshire: Bromley, Vickers, Hydon

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Re: Sutherland family Caithness 1841 & 1851 census lookup plse
« Reply #26 on: Friday 05 January 07 10:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ostler

Just to avoid anyone repeating searches already done, I've included a link to your other post on the family: www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,198968.0.html

You have Angus's 1888 death cert which shows parents's as Neil and Janet Bain. This cert. also includes details of Angus's two wives, Janet Gow and Janet Sutherland. Janet Sutherland being the mother to William. A cousin of Angus's from Dunbeath (also fitting what you know of him) reported his death.

In the area of submitted entries on IGI, you have:

NIEL SUTHERLAND  Marriages: Spouse: JANET BAIN
Marriage:  17 DEC 1802 Latheron, Caithness, Scotland

and an entry for Angus:

ANGUS SUTHERLAND  Christening: 08 OCT 1803 Latheron, Caithness, Scotland
Parents: Father NEIL SUTHERLAND

and probable entries for Angus's marriages:

ANGUS SUTHERLAND  Marriages: Spouse:  JANET GOW   
Marriage:  19 DEC 1833  Latheron, Caithness, Scotland

And a further submitted entry for the second marriage:

ANGUS SUTHERLAND  Marriages: Spouse: JANET SUTHERLAND   
Marriage:  14 APR 1843  Latheron, Caithness, Scotland

Regards.

Monica  :)

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