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Offline Spotty

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BIRCH marriage record
« on: Wednesday 27 October 04 20:04 BST (UK) »
I'm not sure if anyone can help with this one.  I have just found out I have a link to the IOM.

Charles Birch b 1857 (Born Liverpool) married Margaret E b 1867 (born on IOM) and had at least two children Thomas Edward and Charles Henry.  Thomas Edward was also born on the IOM in 1889.

Are there any marriage reocrds for this pair.

Thanks in advance.  Its a long shot.  :)
Gynane, Unsworth, Birch, Duncan.

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Re: BIRCH marriage record
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 12 May 05 08:55 BST (UK) »
I'm still looking for this pair or if anyone can find any 1891 census records for Birch on the IOM I would appreciate it.

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Re: BIRCH marriage record
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 17 May 05 19:11 BST (UK) »
Hello there,

I've found your family in 1891, but they're not in the IOM they are in Liverpool -

1891

34, Guthric Street, Liverpool, West Derby

Charles Birch 34 Head M Plasterer Liverpool, Lancashire
Margaret E Birch 24  Wife M Isle of Man
Thos. Edwd. Birch 2   Son Isle of Man
Charles Henry Birch 7m  Son Lancashire, Liverpool

(RG12/ 2991/ 69/ 15)

Doesn't help much with their marriage though! There's nothing on the IGI :( Perhaps if you managed to get a birth certificate for one of her children (born in England), it would give you her maiden name and aid your research :)

Best of Luck
Sue ;D
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Re: BIRCH marriage record
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 17 May 05 19:15 BST (UK) »
Thank you very much indeed  :) :) I'm well happy with that.
Gynane, Unsworth, Birch, Duncan.

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Re: BIRCH marriage record
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 17 May 05 19:18 BST (UK) »
Wow that was a quick reply    ;D

Have you got them in 1901?  Margaret's name seems to have changed to Lily   ???

Sue
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Wilson - Coleorton Leicesershire/ Swadlincote Derbyshire.
Bundy - Ross Herefordshire/ Birmingham
Dugdale - Isle of Man

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Re: BIRCH marriage record
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 17 May 05 19:25 BST (UK) »
Wow that was a quick reply ;D

Have you got them in 1901? Margaret's name seems to have changed to Lily ???

Sue

*groans* nothing in my tree is straight forward!! Who's Lily? a second wife maybe. No of course not, you're right she's just now down as Lily.

I'm collecting things to look for on the 1901 thats 2 things to check now (saving up to 5)
Gynane, Unsworth, Birch, Duncan.

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Re: BIRCH marriage record
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 17 May 05 19:41 BST (UK) »
Well if his second wife is the same age and born in the IOM then yes!!

1901

21 Guthrie Street, Liverpool, West Derby

Charles Birch     44   Head     M   Plasterer     Lancashire, Liverpool
Lily Birch            34   Wife      M                     Isle of Man
Thomas E ''        12   Son                              Isle of Man
Arthur I  ''            7   Son                              Lancashire, Liverpool
Frank W  ''           5   Son                                  ''                ''
John Henz         64   Lodger  M  Plasterer           ''                 ''

                                           (RG13/ 3491/ 162/ 30)

Regards
Sue   :D
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Wilson - Coleorton Leicesershire/ Swadlincote Derbyshire.
Bundy - Ross Herefordshire/ Birmingham
Dugdale - Isle of Man

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Re: BIRCH marriage record
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 17 May 05 19:49 BST (UK) »
Thanks ever so much for this Sue.

This is a bit tenuous but after reading some threads about deaf census takers....

Here middle initial was E.  I wonder if that was Elizabeth and she was known as Lizzie - can you see where I'm going with this one!!

I notice they have moved along the road too.

Oh well many thanks again for all your help.

xx
Gynane, Unsworth, Birch, Duncan.

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Re: BIRCH marriage record
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 17 May 05 20:05 BST (UK) »
Yes, you could well be right, you have to have a very open-mind with these old records   ;)

I have found this listing in the birth index -

1896 - Frank William Birch   8b - 538 - June   Reg. dist. West Derby

It ought to reveal Margaret/Lily's maiden name and progress your research.  You can apply online at

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificate/index.asp#0

Hope you sort it all out in the end   :)  If you would like any further help (I have a subscription to ancestry) or if you would like me to send you a scanned copy of the original census returns then send me a PM with your e-mail address 

Best of luck
Sue   :) 
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


Wilson - Coleorton Leicesershire/ Swadlincote Derbyshire.
Bundy - Ross Herefordshire/ Birmingham
Dugdale - Isle of Man